Re: [DNSOP] Cache poisoning on DNSSEC

2008-08-28 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 06:54:53PM -0400, Dean Anderson wrote: I suggest you review the past emails and the RFC's to find out what is meant by a 'non-verifying DNSSEC cache'. I have a passing familiarity with the RFCs, and the phrase non-verifying DNSSEC cache, and even non-verifying, appears

[DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-parroot-00 (Was: A different question

2008-08-28 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 11:53:02AM -0700, David Conrad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 1187 lines which said: It is a bit dated as it was originally written before the IPv6 glue was added to the roots. If there is interest in pursuing this, I could take a stab at another revision.

Re: [DNSOP] Cache poisoning on DNSSEC

2008-08-28 Thread Paul Wouters
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008, Brian Dickson wrote: (I would posit that the folks generating the DNSKEY will also want to generate the DS hash on their known, trusted signing tools instead of trusting the parent w/ the DNSKEY materials) Well, here's why: - The DS is a deterministic

Re: [DNSOP] Cache poisoning on DNSSEC

2008-08-28 Thread bmanning
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 12:04:15AM -0400, Brian Dickson wrote: The DS may be provided by the operator of the subordinate zone, or built by the parent operator, most likely the latter. thats an interesting premise. why do you think this will be the case?

Re: [DNSOP] Cache poisoning on DNSSEC

2008-08-28 Thread Mark Andrews
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 12:04:15AM -0400, Brian Dickson wrote: The DS may be provided by the operator of the subordinate zone, or built by the parent operator, most likely the latter. thats an interesting premise. why do you think this will be the case?

Re: [DNSOP] Cache poisoning on DNSSEC

2008-08-28 Thread bmanning
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 10:23:53AM +1000, Mark Andrews wrote: - The parent is already trusted with DNSSEC tools, since the parent is signing the parent's zone (including the DS record!) assuming facts not in evidence. there is active discussion about having unsigned zones

Re: [DNSOP] Cache poisoning on DNSSEC

2008-08-28 Thread Mark Andrews
- The parent is already trusted with DNSSEC tools, since the parent is signing the parent's zone (including the DS record!) assuming facts not in evidence. there is active discussion about having unsigned zones w/ DS records included. Well you are not talking