[DNSOP] KSK rollover

2010-05-13 Thread George Barwood
I have been thinking about KSK rollover in my DNSSEC implementation, and it seems that there is currently no specification for KSK rollover within the DNSSEC protocol. There is this expired requirements draft http://tools.ietf.org/wg/dnsop/draft-ietf-dnsop-key-rollover-requirements/ but

Re: [DNSOP] KSK rollover

2010-05-13 Thread Patrik Wallstrom
On May 13, 2010, at 9:56 AM, George Barwood wrote: I have been thinking about KSK rollover in my DNSSEC implementation, and it seems that there is currently no specification for KSK rollover within the DNSSEC protocol. There is this expired requirements draft

Re: [DNSOP] KSK rollover

2010-05-13 Thread George Barwood
- Original Message - From: Patrik Wallstrom pa...@blipp.com To: George Barwood george.barw...@blueyonder.co.uk Cc: dnsop@ietf.org Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 9:06 AM Subject: Re: [DNSOP] KSK rollover On May 13, 2010, at 9:56 AM, George Barwood wrote: I have been thinking about KSK

Re: [DNSOP] KSK rollover

2010-05-13 Thread Evan Hunt
That is certainly relevant to rollover, but it doesn't specify any means by which the new DS records can be placed in the parent zone. You're correct, there's no mechanism for doing this within the DNS. You need to update DS records through your registrar just as you do with NS records and

Re: [DNSOP] KSK rollover

2010-05-13 Thread Edward Lewis
At 17:37 +0100 5/13/10, George Barwood wrote: I'm somewhat puzzled that thre is no specification, and apparently no activity on this. http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-59/presentations/lewis-dnssec.pdf There's activity. There's no standard underway because of the plethora of

Re: [DNSOP] KSK rollover

2010-05-13 Thread Mark Andrews
In message 44c21cd9ee514b039eafeafa707a2...@local, George Barwood writes: - Original Message - From: Patrik Wallstrom pa...@blipp.com To: George Barwood george.barw...@blueyonder.co.uk Cc: dnsop@ietf.org Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 9:06 AM Subject: Re: [DNSOP] KSK rollover

Re: [DNSOP] KSK rollover

2010-05-13 Thread Joe Abley
On 2010-05-13, at 19:33, Mark Andrews wrote: There are lots of way to do this. * Use UPDATE to update the delegation records in the parent. This would work today it only requires a willingness to do so. This can be done securely (TSIG) and will scale.

Re: [DNSOP] KSK rollover

2010-05-13 Thread Joe Abley
On 2010-05-13, at 22:13, Joe Abley wrote: ... and there's also the approach that is actually being implemented, which is described in RFC 4310. Or 5910, since that seems to exist now. :-) Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) J. Gould Request for Comments: 5910

Re: [DNSOP] KSK rollover

2010-05-13 Thread Mark Andrews
In message 74ae2b2b-a09a-4fbf-b6c3-7eebe89ca...@hopcount.ca, Joe Abley writes : On 2010-05-13, at 19:33, Mark Andrews wrote: There are lots of way to do this. * Use UPDATE to update the delegation records in the parent. This would work today it only requires a willingness