Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption draft-wkumari-dnsop-root-loopback

2014-11-17 Thread Doug Barton
On 11/16/14 11:12 PM, Evan Hunt wrote: On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 03:12:58PM -0800, Doug Barton wrote: Before commenting further I'd love the authors to flesh out their reasoning for not simply slaving the zone where possible. I'm not one of the authors, but I can give you an answer: in BIND,

Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption draft-wkumari-dnsop-root-loopback

2014-11-17 Thread Paul Vixie
Doug Barton mailto:do...@dougbarton.us Monday, November 17, 2014 2:16 PM That seems like something that should be fixable in BIND, yes? (And thanks for doing that testing, btw) it's not broken. dnssec has no facility for validating data at slave synchronization time (after each axfr or

Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption draft-wkumari-dnsop-root-loopback

2014-11-17 Thread Evan Hunt
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 02:16:22PM -0800, Doug Barton wrote: That seems like something that should be fixable in BIND, yes? (And thanks for doing that testing, btw) Yes, by using two views and slaving the root in one of them and validating in the other one, like it recommends in the draft. :)

Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption draft-wkumari-dnsop-root-loopback

2014-11-17 Thread Doug Barton
On 11/17/14 2:50 PM, Evan Hunt wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 02:16:22PM -0800, Doug Barton wrote: That seems like something that should be fixable in BIND, yes? (And thanks for doing that testing, btw) Yes, by using two views and slaving the root in one of them and validating in the other

Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption draft-wkumari-dnsop-root-loopback

2014-11-17 Thread David Conrad
Nicholas, On Nov 17, 2014, at 5:50 PM, Nicholas Weaver nwea...@icsi.berkeley.edu wrote: Lookups to the root themselves should be rare, and the responses have very long TTLs (48 hours!). Lookups for names that do not exist are quite (one might say insanely) frequent and the TTL less (Values

Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption draft-wkumari-dnsop-root-loopback

2014-11-17 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Nov 17, 2014, at 5:50 PM, Nicholas Weaver nwea...@icsi.berkeley.edu wrote: Trying to be polite here, but this seems just silly, and the only thing really should be Don't Bother. Root latency frankly speaking does not matter. Lookups to the root themselves should be rare, and the