Re: [DNSOP] Decreasing Access Time to Root Servers

2015-10-08 Thread Paul Hoffman
On 7 Oct 2015, at 21:59, Jiankang Yao wrote: draft-yao-dnsop-root-cache improves on draft-ietf-dnsop-root-loopback in the following ways: 1. The resolver which supports draft-yao-dnsop-root-cache is still a resolver which still needs to get the root data information from 13 dns root servers.

Re: [DNSOP] Expiration impending:

2015-10-08 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Mon, Oct 05, 2015 at 09:39:06AM -0400, Paul Hoffman wrote: > Fully agree. That is why this should not be an IETF document, and instead it > should be written and published by the organization that is responsible for > the formats and publication methods. I don't really care how this happens,

Re: [DNSOP] Expiration impending:

2015-10-08 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Thu, Oct 08, 2015 at 10:06:47AM -0700, David Conrad wrote: > > What am I missing? >From my POV, nothing. Paul seemed to be suggesting that the current arrangements should be published somehow other than as "an IETF document". Maybe he meant "send it up the Independent Submissions editor

Re: [DNSOP] Expiration impending:

2015-10-08 Thread David Conrad
Hi, > On Oct 8, 2015, at 9:40 AM, Andrew Sullivan wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 05, 2015 at 09:39:06AM -0400, Paul Hoffman wrote: >> Fully agree. That is why this should not be an IETF document, and instead it >> should be written and published by the organization that is

Re: [DNSOP] Expiration impending:

2015-10-08 Thread Paul Hoffman
On 8 Oct 2015, at 11:08, Andrew Sullivan wrote: On Thu, Oct 08, 2015 at 10:06:47AM -0700, David Conrad wrote: What am I missing? From my POV, nothing. Paul seemed to be suggesting that the current arrangements should be published somehow other than as "an IETF document". Maybe he meant

Re: [DNSOP] Expiration impending:

2015-10-08 Thread manning
In the past, when organizations found themselves in the same situation that ICANN seems to find itself in here (at least as outlined by yourself, below) they have done what ICANN has done and is trying to do now, which is to pass the document on to a neutral third party for “safe keeping”. One

Re: [DNSOP] Expiration impending:

2015-10-08 Thread John Levine
>In the past, when organizations found themselves in the same situation that >ICANN seems to find itself in here >(at least as outlined by yourself, below) >they have done what ICANN has done and is trying to do now, which is to pass >the document on to a neutral third >party for �safe keeping�.

Re: [DNSOP] Expiration impending:

2015-10-08 Thread David Conrad
Suzanne, > (Jonne Soininen is the current liaison manager, cc'd). Jonne's email address looks suspiciously like Andrew's :) > This sounds like you'd be OK with publishing the document as an Informational > RFC, Yes. > mod making sure it's accurate as a current description, Most important

Re: [DNSOP] Expiration impending:

2015-10-08 Thread manning
perhaps… I think (well it used to work this way) that regardless of HOW it comes under IETF purview, once it does, it is no longer under the change control of the submitting organization. manning bmann...@karoshi.com PO Box 6151 Playa del Rey, CA 90296 310.322.8102 On