Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-edns-client-subnet

2015-10-09 Thread Suzanne Woolf
Dear Colleagues, This Working Group Last Call has concluded, and we've seen consensus support to send the document on to the IESG. Thanks to everyone who spent their time and effort on reviews and discussion, and to the authors for their careful attention to addressing the comments. Suzanne &

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-dnsop-5966bis

2015-10-09 Thread Joe Abley
On 9 Oct 2015, at 15:21, Tim Wicinski wrote: I've spent some time reviewing this document and I feel that all the outstanding issues have been addressed, and the document is very well put together. This is ready for the next step. This starts a Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-

Re: [DNSOP] Pity (was Re: Expiration impending: )

2015-10-09 Thread Paul Vixie
Andrew Sullivan wrote: > ... > > For whatever it's worth, I think this outcome shows that the IETF is no > longer able to take uncontroversial descriptions of what people are doing > them and process them with anything like the dispatch they deserve. I think > that's unfortunate and is another

[DNSOP] Pity (was Re: Expiration impending: )

2015-10-09 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Fri, Oct 09, 2015 at 12:30:03PM -0400, Joe Abley wrote: > So to clear up the lingering ambiguity, the authors are not requesting > adoption of this document by the working group; we'll pick it up with the > ISE. For whatever it's worth, I think this outcome shows that the IETF is no longer able

Re: [DNSOP] Expiration impending:

2015-10-09 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Fri, Oct 09, 2015 at 07:41:38AM -0400, Joe Abley wrote: > > When we published RFC 7108 as an independent submission there was no > suggestion that the IETF expected to wield change control over the > operations of L-Root. Independent submissions are not IETF products. I think that's what Bill

Re: [DNSOP] Expiration impending:

2015-10-09 Thread Joe Abley
On 9 Oct 2015, at 12:20, manning wrote: On 9October2015Friday, at 4:41, Joe Abley wrote: Aside from the motivation to provide a useful technical specification in a place where it can be easily found, I continue to feel that it is important that significant infrastructural elements of the In

Re: [DNSOP] Expiration impending:

2015-10-09 Thread manning
On 9October2015Friday, at 4:41, Joe Abley wrote: > > > On 8 Oct 2015, at 22:25, manning wrote: > >> perhaps… I think (well it used to work this way) that regardless of HOW it >> comes under IETF purview, once it does, >> it is no longer under the change control of the submitting organizati

Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-jabley-dnsop-ordered-answers-00.txt

2015-10-09 Thread Shumon Huque
On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Paul Wouters wrote: > On Fri, 9 Oct 2015, Joe Abley wrote: > > In a fit of zeal I wrote up what I thought was a reasonable clarification >> to 1034/1035 with respect to the ordering of RRSets within sections of a >> response to a DNS QUERY, prompted by the discuss

Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-jabley-dnsop-ordered-answers-00.txt

2015-10-09 Thread Joe Abley
On 9 Oct 2015, at 10:54, Paul Wouters wrote: On Fri, 9 Oct 2015, Joe Abley wrote: In a fit of zeal I wrote up what I thought was a reasonable clarification to 1034/1035 with respect to the ordering of RRSets within sections of a response to a DNS QUERY, prompted by the discussions on this li

Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-jabley-dnsop-ordered-answers-00.txt

2015-10-09 Thread Paul Wouters
On Fri, 9 Oct 2015, Joe Abley wrote: In a fit of zeal I wrote up what I thought was a reasonable clarification to 1034/1035 with respect to the ordering of RRSets within sections of a response to a DNS QUERY, prompted by the discussions on this list in August, to which maybe this link is a use

[DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-jabley-dnsop-ordered-answers-00.txt

2015-10-09 Thread Joe Abley
Hi all, In a fit of zeal I wrote up what I thought was a reasonable clarification to 1034/1035 with respect to the ordering of RRSets within sections of a response to a DNS QUERY, prompted by the discussions on this list in August, to which maybe this link is a useful pointer: https://mai

Re: [DNSOP] Expiration impending:

2015-10-09 Thread Joe Abley
On 8 Oct 2015, at 22:25, manning wrote: perhaps… I think (well it used to work this way) that regardless of HOW it comes under IETF purview, once it does, it is no longer under the change control of the submitting organization. I think this is a bit of a red herring. When we published RFC