Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-problem-00.txt

2015-12-09 Thread George Michaelson
The 7 Layer model is a useful tool to talk about things, its not a rei-fied thing. That said, apparent layer violations invite critique because they inherently carry architectural consequence. I think the overloading of a (semantic space) name to have special properties to take it out of the syste

Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-problem-00.txt

2015-12-09 Thread John R Levine
With onion you get a rather different thing that looks like an open TCP connection, a couple of levels up the protocol stack. Strictly an Onion address yields you a _real_ TCP connection to your SOCKS server, ... It's certainly a virtual circuit, but it's not a TCP connection because the end

Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: code points for brainpool curves for DNSSEC

2015-12-09 Thread Ólafur Guðmundsson
Stephen, Sorry for being so blunt below. The document totally content free as to why this makes any sense in an operational context. DNSSEC algorithms should not be given out lightly as there is a significant COST to deploy support for each additional algorithm. While I strongly support having b

Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-problem-00.txt

2015-12-09 Thread Alec Muffett
Hiya! > On Dec 5, 2015, at 03:44, John Levine wrote: > > With onion you get a rather different thing that looks like an open > TCP connection, a couple of levels up the protocol stack. So if the > theory is that these special names are doing a protocol switch, it's > not one switch, it's potent

Re: [DNSOP] [saag] code points for brainpool curves for DNSSEC

2015-12-09 Thread Phillip Hallam-Baker
Objections so far * The approach is dated (not fast prime rigid) and the randomness isn't established to be rigid. * DNSSEC requires a single algorithm for interop * The code points are 8 bit and thus scarce * We should do Curdle first. I am opposed to Brainpool for all the above and in addition,

Re: [DNSOP] new Resource record?

2015-12-09 Thread Hosnieh Rafiee
Hi Jared, Thanks a lot for your quick response. > > People have done things similar to this over the years. I remember software > once distributed UNENCODED over sequenced DNS TXT records. > > It seems something like TXT would be the best way to do this, eg: > > dig txt 1.255.42.204.in-addr.ar

Re: [DNSOP] new Resource record?

2015-12-09 Thread Jared Mauch
> On Dec 9, 2015, at 3:25 PM, Hosnieh Rafiee wrote: > > Hi, > > Since DNS is a very important service on the internet, for several security > processes, it can be used as a powerful system. So far, some resource > records were proposed for certificates, keys and other values. > > I would like

Re: [DNSOP] Question on RRtypes in RFC 4034 Section 6.2

2015-12-09 Thread Robert Edmonds
Mark Andrews wrote: > In message <35c15c68-b6db-4970-b816-9295c123e...@dnss.ec>, > =?utf-8?Q?=F0=9F=94=92Roy_Arends?= writes: > > We'd end up adding stuff to a response in order to make it shorter. > > We'd end up changing a 0x00 to a 0x01 in the OPT record. > > > Is there a clear benefit (short

[DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-edns-key-tag-00.txt

2015-12-09 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Domain Name System Operations Working Group of the IETF. Title : The EDNS Key Tag Option Author : Duane Wessels Filename: draft-iet

[DNSOP] new Resource record?

2015-12-09 Thread Hosnieh Rafiee
Hi, Since DNS is a very important service on the internet, for several security processes, it can be used as a powerful system. So far, some resource records were proposed for certificates, keys and other values. I would like to suggest the following format (this is the rough version and it is no

[DNSOP] Fwd: code points for brainpool curves for DNSSEC

2015-12-09 Thread Stephen Farrell
Forwarded Message Subject: code points for brainpool curves for DNSSEC Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2015 18:00:18 + From: Stephen Farrell To: s...@ietf.org Hiya, The brainpool folks have written an I-D [1] that they are pushing through the rfc editor's independent stream. [2] That

Re: [DNSOP] Question on RRtypes in RFC 4034 Section 6.2

2015-12-09 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <35c15c68-b6db-4970-b816-9295c123e...@dnss.ec>, =?utf-8?Q?=F0=9F=94=92Roy_Arends?= writes: > We'd end up adding stuff to a response in order to make it shorter. We'd end up changing a 0x00 to a 0x01 in the OPT record. > Is there a clear benefit (shorter responses)? Can you show me a