Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: [Curdle] I-D Action: draft-ietf-curdle-dnskey-eddsa-02.txt

2016-11-14 Thread Jim Reid
> On 15 Nov 2016, at 07:53, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > > If, while adding two new algorithms, we in parallel deprecate four > old ones, then we're making progress. Maybe we should have a one-in, one-out rule for DNSSEC algorithms? :-) ___ DNSOP mailin

Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: [Curdle] I-D Action: draft-ietf-curdle-dnskey-eddsa-02.txt

2016-11-14 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 12:22:18AM +0100, Ondřej Surý wrote: > a new version of EDDSA for DNSSEC has been posted > that resolves most if not all comments received > during WGLC in curdle. This is one last chance > to review the document, so don't miss it! :) My only comment is that I very much h

Re: [DNSOP] CBOR-DNS compression is 30% the size of gzip compressed PCAP

2016-11-14 Thread Maarten Wullink
Did you consider columnar storage formats like Apache Parquet + Snappy compression? It would be an interesting to compare this to cbor-dns. https://parquet.apache.org/ https://github.com/google/snappy > Op 15 nov. 2016, om 07:18 heeft Sara Dickinson het > volgende geschreven: > > >> On 15 No

Re: [DNSOP] DNS over HTTP Bar Bof Tuesady 6:45 Studio 7

2016-11-14 Thread Patrick McManus
On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 7:52 AM, Patrick McManus wrote: > Our Bar BOF will be Tuesday evening at 6:45 in Studio 7 on the 6th Floor > of the Conrad. See you there! I should have mentioned - plan on a duration of 1 hour. ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ie

Re: [DNSOP] CBOR-DNS compression is 30% the size of gzip compressed PCAP

2016-11-14 Thread Jerry Lundström
Hi, On 11/15/16 06:18, Sara Dickinson wrote: > >> On 15 Nov 2016, at 14:59, George Michaelson wrote: >> >> Terry clarified, the 30% size compression is not from uncompressed, >> but is the comparision with compressed gzip pcap. >> >> So, compressed DNS-CBOR is *significantly* smaller than pcap.g

Re: [DNSOP] CBOR-DNS compression is 30% the size of gzip compressed PCAP

2016-11-14 Thread Sara Dickinson
> On 15 Nov 2016, at 14:59, George Michaelson wrote: > > Terry clarified, the 30% size compression is not from uncompressed, > but is the comparision with compressed gzip pcap. > > So, compressed DNS-CBOR is *significantly* smaller than pcap.gz Yup - sorry if I wasn’t clear in the presentation

Re: [DNSOP] [dnsoverhttp] DNS over HTTP Bar Bof Tuesady 6:45 Studio 7

2016-11-14 Thread songlinj...@gmail.com
Hi Colleagues, I would like to take some time slot to introduce the DNS wireformat draft. https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-song-dns-wireformat-http-04 And I also would like to ask the impact of cache impact of the DNS over HTTP path. I mean the cache in the middle may mis-interpret and block

[DNSOP] CBOR-DNS compression is 30% the size of gzip compressed PCAP

2016-11-14 Thread George Michaelson
Terry clarified, the 30% size compression is not from uncompressed, but is the comparision with compressed gzip pcap. So, compressed DNS-CBOR is *significantly* smaller than pcap.gz -G ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/

Re: [DNSOP] draft-fujiwara-dnsop-resolver-update-00

2016-11-14 Thread Ondřej Surý
- Original Message - > From: "神明達哉" > To: "Ondřej Surý" > Cc: "Stephane Bortzmeyer" , "Bob Harold" > , "dnsop" > Sent: Tuesday, 15 November, 2016 03:40:56 > Subject: Re: [DNSOP] draft-fujiwara-dnsop-resolver-update-00 > At Tue, 15 Nov 2016 03:12:43 +0100 (CET), > Ondřej Surý wrote: >

Re: [DNSOP] draft-fujiwara-dnsop-resolver-update-00

2016-11-14 Thread 神明達哉
At Tue, 15 Nov 2016 03:12:43 +0100 (CET), Ondřej Surý wrote: > > Yes, it is. Otherwise, what would be the point of using the NS in the > > parent instead of the authoritative one? > > Let me rephrase it, the assumption here is that parent NS are: > "as good as they get to resolve the names undern

Re: [DNSOP] draft-fujiwara-dnsop-resolver-update-00

2016-11-14 Thread Ondřej Surý
- Original Message - > From: "Stephane Bortzmeyer" > To: "Ondřej Surý" > Cc: "Bob Harold" , "dnsop" > Sent: Tuesday, 15 November, 2016 01:55:50 > Subject: Re: draft-fujiwara-dnsop-resolver-update-00 > On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 08:46:55PM +0100, > Ondřej Surý wrote > a message of 32 line

[DNSOP] IPR Disclosure Ray Bellis' Statement about IPR related to draft-dickinson-dnsop-dns-capture-format belonging to Nominet UK

2016-11-14 Thread IETF Secretariat
Dear Jim Hague, John Dickinson, Sara Dickinson, Terry Manderson, John Bond: An IPR disclosure that pertains to your Internet-Draft entitled "C-DNS: A DNS Packet Capture Format" (draft-dickinson-dnsop-dns-capture-format) was submitted to the IETF Secretariat on and has been posted on the "IETF Pa

Re: [DNSOP] draft-fujiwara-dnsop-resolver-update-00

2016-11-14 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 08:46:55PM +0100, Ondřej Surý wrote a message of 32 lines which said: > > There seems to be an assumption in this draft that the parent NS > > records are always correct, but I would argue that this is not the > > case. > > Nope, I don't think this is an assumption of

Re: [DNSOP] draft-fujiwara-dnsop-resolver-update-00

2016-11-14 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 02:08:54AM +0900, fujiw...@jprs.co.jp wrote a message of 41 lines which said: > > 2) It will make debugging more difficult. With your two-caches > > system, "dig @myresolver NS foobar.example" will retrieve the data > > in foobar.example, while the resolver will use, wh

Re: [DNSOP] draft-fujiwara-dnsop-resolver-update-00

2016-11-14 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 04:33:54PM +0200, Andreas Gustafsson wrote a message of 22 lines which said: > A resolver that receives an RD=0 query for a name that is not > present in the cache should respond with a referral. In a two-cache > resolver, the natural place to look for the data to incl

Re: [DNSOP] CBOR DNS Stream Format

2016-11-14 Thread Ozgur Karatas
Hello Dear Jerry; I'm starting to test to code and I think the following package is required for Debian :) # sudo apt-get install dh-autoreconf I added notes to the README.md file but I couldn't push it, I don't have access. Line (to README.md) # Debian Notes for install Debian, please insta

[DNSOP] Fwd: [Curdle] I-D Action: draft-ietf-curdle-dnskey-eddsa-02.txt

2016-11-14 Thread Ondřej Surý
Dear all, a new version of EDDSA for DNSSEC has been posted that resolves most if not all comments received during WGLC in curdle. This is one last chance to review the document, so don't miss it! :) Cheers, -- Ondřej Surý -- Technical Fellow CZ.NI

Re: [DNSOP] CBOR DNS Stream Format

2016-11-14 Thread Jerry Lundström
Hi Ozgur, On 11/14/16 21:21, Ozgur Karatas wrote: > I'm starting to test to code and I think the following package is required > for Debian :) > > # sudo apt-get install dh-autoreconf Thanks for testing, have you tried `sh autogen.sh` before `configure` and `make` ? I believe this won't requir

Re: [DNSOP] Why 2 caches? draft-fujiwara-dnsop-resolver-update-00

2016-11-14 Thread Edward Lewis
On 11/14/16, 20:10, "Olafur Gudmundsson" wrote: >On Nov 14, 2016, at 5:01 PM, Ondřej Surý wrote: > >>Are they?  What is child-NS needed for? > >That is what the NS set that the resolver should >use, the one in parent is just a hint. > >All good resolvers should use the Parent as hint >as to find

[DNSOP] The DNSOP WG has placed draft-muks-dnsop-dns-catalog-zones in state "Candidate for WG Adoption"

2016-11-14 Thread IETF Secretariat
The DNSOP WG has placed draft-muks-dnsop-dns-catalog-zones in state Candidate for WG Adoption (entered by Tim Wicinski) The document is available at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-muks-dnsop-dns-catalog-zones/ ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf

[DNSOP] The DNSOP WG has placed draft-wallstrom-dnsop-dns-delegation-requirements in state "Candidate for WG Adoption"

2016-11-14 Thread IETF Secretariat
The DNSOP WG has placed draft-wallstrom-dnsop-dns-delegation-requirements in state Candidate for WG Adoption (entered by Tim Wicinski) The document is available at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wallstrom-dnsop-dns-delegation-requirements/ ___

[DNSOP] CBOR DNS Stream Format

2016-11-14 Thread Jerry Lundström
Hi all, I have been fiddling around with CBOR while reading the C-DNS draft and there have been a couple of concerns that I wanted to solve such as: - representing broken DNS - being able to stream the format - data degradation/quality - support non-DNS information And what better way to do it th

Re: [DNSOP] software patents Re: draft-fujiwara-dnsop-resolver-update-00

2016-11-14 Thread Ted Lemon
On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 10:13 PM, bert hubert wrote: Bert Huber wrote: > Also, should we work with companies attempting to hinder progress by > clinging to patents which are no longer enforceable? Hm. First, I tend to agree with you that the IETF should not work with companies that attempt to h

Re: [DNSOP] software patents Re: draft-fujiwara-dnsop-resolver-update-00

2016-11-14 Thread bert hubert
On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 04:58:43AM +0900, Ted Lemon wrote: > On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 10:13 PM, bert hubert > wrote: > Bert Huber wrote: > > Also, should we work with companies attempting to hinder progress by > > clinging to patents which are no longer enforceable? > > Hm. First, I tend to agr

Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-wkumari-dnsop-ttl-stretching-00.txt

2016-11-14 Thread Bob Harold
On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 12:05 AM, Warren Kumari wrote: > Hi all, > > I have just submitted "Stretching DNS TTLs" > (draft-wkumari-dnsop-ttl-stretching-00). > > The very high level overview is: > If you are doing something like HAMMER / pre-fetch, and cannot reach > the authoritative server when t

Re: [DNSOP] Why 2 caches? draft-fujiwara-dnsop-resolver-update-00

2016-11-14 Thread Olafur Gudmundsson
> On Nov 14, 2016, at 5:01 PM, Ondřej Surý wrote: > > > - Original Message - >> From: "Edward Lewis" >> To: "Ondřej Surý" >> Cc: "dnsop" >> Sent: Monday, 14 November, 2016 08:31:51 >> Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Why 2 caches? draft-fujiwara-dnsop-resolver-update-00 > >> I'm a little confus

Re: [DNSOP] Why 2 caches? draft-fujiwara-dnsop-resolver-update-00

2016-11-14 Thread Ondřej Surý
- Original Message - > From: "Edward Lewis" > To: "Ondřej Surý" > Cc: "dnsop" > Sent: Monday, 14 November, 2016 08:31:51 > Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Why 2 caches? draft-fujiwara-dnsop-resolver-update-00 > I'm a little confused to the feedback, so I'm asking for some clarification. > > On 1