Re: [DNSOP] sentinel and timing?

2018-02-07 Thread Paul Wouters
On Wed, 7 Feb 2018, Robert Story wrote: On Wed 2018-02-07 10:43:16-0500 Paul wrote: How about using this query to also encode an uptime-processstartedtime value? Maybe with accurancy reduced to minutes. I think that would return valuable data. -1 for feature creep and the technical reasons

Re: [DNSOP] A conversational description of sentinel.

2018-02-07 Thread Geoff Huston
> > Fine. Now we need to have something actionable, e.g. set of names for > Geoff to test. The first test I’ve undertaken is to test two name forms in an ad campaign over the past few days: heres an example of the test: xm--u82aa292f-c13-s1518066940-i

Re: [DNSOP] sentinel and timing?

2018-02-07 Thread Robert Story
On Wed 2018-02-07 10:43:16-0500 Paul wrote: > How about using this query to also encode an > uptime-processstartedtime value? Maybe with accurancy reduced to > minutes. I think that would return valuable data. -1 for feature creep and the technical reasons Joe mentioned. Maybe we need a SNMP

Re: [DNSOP] meaning of tag "match" for CAA RDATA

2018-02-07 Thread Mark Andrews
> On 8 Feb 2018, at 9:43 am, Mark Andrews wrote: > > Software that processes CAA records returned by the DNS can remove > any duplicates detected at that level of processing. The DNS isn’t > in a position to do that de-duplication. > > For UPDATE I would always delete the CAA

Re: [DNSOP] meaning of tag "match" for CAA RDATA

2018-02-07 Thread Mark Andrews
> On 8 Feb 2018, at 9:15 am, 神明達哉 wrote: > > At Thu, 8 Feb 2018 08:25:35 +1100, > Mark Andrews wrote: > >>> I happen to have this question while reading RFC6844: what does the >>> "matching" mean in the following description of Section 5.1? >>> >>> Tag:

Re: [DNSOP] meaning of tag "match" for CAA RDATA

2018-02-07 Thread 神明達哉
At Thu, 8 Feb 2018 08:25:35 +1100, Mark Andrews wrote: > > I happen to have this question while reading RFC6844: what does the > > "matching" mean in the following description of Section 5.1? > > > > Tag: The property identifier, a sequence of US-ASCII characters. > > > >

Re: [DNSOP] meaning of tag "match" for CAA RDATA

2018-02-07 Thread Mark Andrews
> On 8 Feb 2018, at 3:26 am, 神明達哉 wrote: > > I happen to have this question while reading RFC6844: what does the > "matching" mean in the following description of Section 5.1? > > Tag: The property identifier, a sequence of US-ASCII characters. > > Tag values MAY

Re: [DNSOP] A conversational description of sentinel.

2018-02-07 Thread Matt Larson
> On Feb 7, 2018, at 6:13 AM, Benno Overeinder wrote: > > On 07/02/2018 10:12, Warren Kumari wrote: >> Whoops, last message was blank; finger fail. >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 3:57 AM, Warren Kumari wrote: >>> On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 2:15 AM, Petr

[DNSOP] meaning of tag "match" for CAA RDATA

2018-02-07 Thread 神明達哉
I happen to have this question while reading RFC6844: what does the "matching" mean in the following description of Section 5.1? Tag: The property identifier, a sequence of US-ASCII characters. Tag values MAY contain US-ASCII characters 'a' through 'z', 'A' through 'Z', and the

Re: [DNSOP] sentinel and timing?

2018-02-07 Thread Joe Abley
Hi Paul, > On Feb 7, 2018, at 10:43, Paul Wouters wrote: > > > I think it is useful to know how long the DNS resolver process has been > up, and/or how long the server running the DNS resolver has been up, > when it is sending the sentinel queries. > > That would allow us to

Re: [DNSOP] [dnssd] Working Group Last Call - draft-ietf-dnsop-session-signal

2018-02-07 Thread Ted Lemon
On Feb 7, 2018, at 9:22 AM, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > The intention of this specification is to enable stateful information > (connection parameters and DNS data) directly related to the DSO > Session to be transmitted. This creates trackable state and prevents > queries

[DNSOP] sentinel and timing?

2018-02-07 Thread Paul Wouters
I think it is useful to know how long the DNS resolver process has been up, and/or how long the server running the DNS resolver has been up, when it is sending the sentinel queries. That would allow us to detect if we are looking at spun up server instances and/or provisioned containers with

Re: [DNSOP] A conversational description of sentinel.

2018-02-07 Thread Bob Harold
On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 6:13 AM, Benno Overeinder wrote: > On 07/02/2018 10:12, Warren Kumari wrote: > > Whoops, last message was blank; finger fail. > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 3:57 AM, Warren Kumari wrote: > >> On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 2:15 AM, Petr

Re: [DNSOP] [dnssd] Working Group Last Call - draft-ietf-dnsop-session-signal

2018-02-07 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Thu, Feb 01, 2018 at 02:14:53PM -0500, tjw ietf wrote a message of 55 lines which said: > This starts a Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-session-signal After reading -05 : My personal feeling is that it is complicated, with a lot of details. May be

Re: [DNSOP] A conversational description of sentinel.

2018-02-07 Thread Benno Overeinder
On 07/02/2018 10:12, Warren Kumari wrote: > Whoops, last message was blank; finger fail. > > > On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 3:57 AM, Warren Kumari wrote: >> On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 2:15 AM, Petr Špaček wrote: >>> >>> Fine. Now we need to have something

Re: [DNSOP] A conversational description of sentinel.

2018-02-07 Thread Warren Kumari
Whoops, last message was blank; finger fail. On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 3:57 AM, Warren Kumari wrote: > On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 2:15 AM, Petr Špaček wrote: >> >> >> On 6.2.2018 17:13, Paul Hoffman wrote: >>> On 6 Feb 2018, at 8:04, Petr Špaček wrote: >>>

Re: [DNSOP] A conversational description of sentinel.

2018-02-07 Thread Warren Kumari
On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 2:15 AM, Petr Špaček wrote: > > > On 6.2.2018 17:13, Paul Hoffman wrote: >> On 6 Feb 2018, at 8:04, Petr Špaček wrote: >> >>> On 6.2.2018 13:22, Tony Finch wrote: A. Schulze wrote: > > Yes,