[DNSOP] 答复: Call for Adoption: draft-bortzmeyer-rfc7816bis

2018-07-24 Thread 宋林健
+1 DNS privacy is an important issue. I support this adoption. And I’m willing to review it. Davey 发件人: DNSOP [mailto:dnsop-boun...@ietf.org] 代表 Tim Wicinski 发送时间: 2018年7月25日 0:33 收件人: dnsop 主题: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-bortzmeyer-rfc7816bis We discussed this and there

Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-kh-dnsop-7706bis

2018-07-24 Thread Paul Hoffman
On 24 Jul 2018, at 10:35, Paul Wouters wrote: While I agree with the goal of the draft, to keep root server queries on the local host, I don't like how it is suggesting to run a DNS server on localhost:53, because that is going to cause problems with running validating resolvers on the stub.

Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-kh-dnsop-7706bis

2018-07-24 Thread John Levine
In article you write: >the local host, I don't like how it is suggesting to run a DNS server on >localhost:53 That seems easy enough to fix, move it to another address in 127/8 or a different port. I agree that there's a lot of software that expects to find a local DNS cache on localhost:53 so

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf-12.txt

2018-07-24 Thread Dave Crocker
On 7/23/2018 2:22 PM, Tim Wicinski wrote: ooks like a typo.  That has been there for a bit. ...  The table on page 6 includes: "._protoB._service2" Given that it's the only one like that, yes, it should be changed. Just to bikeshed the issue, note that it's not 'wrong' to have

Re: [DNSOP] howto "internal"

2018-07-24 Thread Grant Taylor
Paul, On 07/24/2018 10:10 AM, Paul Vixie wrote: i also use real domains for my private stuff. but i also use RPZ locally for the internal bindings, Do you leverage anything like Dynamic DNS updates in conjunction with DHCP? If so, how well does that play with the configuration that you're

Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-kh-dnsop-7706bis

2018-07-24 Thread Ted Lemon
Can you unpack that a bit, Paul? What's the scenario where this is a problem? Not disagreeing, just not seeing it. On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 1:35 PM, Paul Wouters wrote: > On Tue, 24 Jul 2018, Tim Wicinski wrote: > > We discussed this and there appears to be support to adopt this, with >> the

Re: [DNSOP] howto "internal"

2018-07-24 Thread Grant Taylor
On 07/24/2018 09:08 AM, Petr Špaček wrote: I would recommend you to use subdomain of your public domain. Agreed. The alternative might be to use a different public domain. Nice thing is that this approach doesn't require: - views - forwarding - explicit trust anchor (if you want DNSSEC

Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-bortzmeyer-rfc7816bis

2018-07-24 Thread Paul Wouters
On Tue, 24 Jul 2018, Tim Wicinski wrote: We discussed this and there appears to be support to adopt this, with the caveat of adding more content to the section on Operational Considerations. This starts a Call for Adoption for draft-bortzmeyer-rfc7816bis The draft is available here:

Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-kh-dnsop-7706bis

2018-07-24 Thread Paul Wouters
On Tue, 24 Jul 2018, Tim Wicinski wrote: We discussed this and there appears to be support to adopt this, with the caveat of fleshing out some of the discussions which came up. This starts a Call for Adoption for draft-kh-dnsop-7706bis The draft is available here:

[DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-kh-dnsop-7706bis

2018-07-24 Thread Tim Wicinski
We discussed this and there appears to be support to adopt this, with the caveat of fleshing out some of the discussions which came up. This starts a Call for Adoption for draft-kh-dnsop-7706bis The draft is available here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-kh-dnsop-7706bis/ Please review

[DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-bortzmeyer-rfc7816bis

2018-07-24 Thread Tim Wicinski
We discussed this and there appears to be support to adopt this, with the caveat of adding more content to the section on Operational Considerations. This starts a Call for Adoption for draft-bortzmeyer-rfc7816bis The draft is available here:

Re: [DNSOP] missing entries from draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf-12.txt

2018-07-24 Thread Tony Finch
John Levine wrote: > > The _tls is in an example, and it's probably wrong, but it's there so > I figure we should list it. _tls in the protocol field is used by non-standard proprietary technologies including Microsoft Lync / Skype for Business and Cisco Jabber / Collaboration Edge. Maybe

Re: [DNSOP] howto "internal"

2018-07-24 Thread Paul Vixie
Tim Wicinski wrote: At my employer we use real domains, but do not expose them to the outside world (they just see 127.0.0.1). It's a better than inverting security through obscurity like I have seen elsewhere (not that you would do that Andreas). Paul, I am not with 100% love of the

Re: [DNSOP] howto "internal"

2018-07-24 Thread Joe Abley
Hi Andreas, One problem with using non-unique namesapaces is that if you ever find yourself needing to join your infrastructure to someone else's you run the risk of collisions. [This is an analogue to the problem at the IP layer with using RFC 1918 addresses -- if I'm already using

Re: [DNSOP] howto "internal"

2018-07-24 Thread Tim Wicinski
At my employer we use real domains, but do not expose them to the outside world (they just see 127.0.0.1). It's a better than inverting security through obscurity like I have seen elsewhere (not that you would do that Andreas). Paul, I am not with 100% love of the .alt name./idea but I do

Re: [DNSOP] howto "internal"

2018-07-24 Thread Tony Finch
Petr Špaček wrote: > > My operational experience indicates that it is easiest to just use > "corp.example.com.", "office.example.com.", or even "i.example.com.". We use private.cam.ac.uk. > Nice thing is that this approach doesn't require: > - views We have an empty version of

Re: [DNSOP] howto "internal"

2018-07-24 Thread Ted Lemon
It would probably be easier to get internal.arpa, similar to home.arpa. You could use home.arpa now, but it would look a little funny... :) On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 10:52 AM, A. Schulze wrote: > Hello, > > some times ago there was an proposal (?) from Warren Kumari to define a > zone

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf-12.txt

2018-07-24 Thread John Levine
In article <9da145f4-df6a-4bfa-b3c9-56027b228...@iis.se> you write: >-=-=-=-=-=- >In table 2 on page 9, the draft refers to RFC 2782 for _dccp and _sctp (SRV), >but those “_node names” >are not even mentioned in the RFC. Are they defined elsewhere? RFC 2782 says that SRV's are named with _proto

Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-wessels-dns-zone-digest-01.txt

2018-07-24 Thread John Levine
In article <87h8kp7sqf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> you write: >The ZONEMD record should contain a size indicator for the zone, >something that allows a receiver to stop downloading if it is clear >that the served zone is too large. Otherwise, the receiver has to >download the entire zone before it can

[DNSOP] [lau...@miscnote.net: difference between dns spoofing and dns hijacking?]

2018-07-24 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
Some work for draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-ter? Define spoofing, poisoning and hijacking? --- Begin Message --- I saw the info from google, While the DNS hijacking involves a malware, the DNS Cache poisoning involves overwriting your local DNS cache with fake values that redirect your browser

Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-wessels-dns-zone-digest-01.txt

2018-07-24 Thread Florian Weimer
* Duane Wessels: > I wouldn't be opposed to this in principle -- say an RR count field. That doesn't really bound the amount of transferred data, I think, because RR size can still vary widely. I believe something that counts the hashed bytes would be more helpful and about as easy to