Re: [DNSOP] proposal: Covert in-band zone data

2019-07-30 Thread Dan Mahoney
On Tue, 30 Jul 2019, Paul Ebersman wrote: > dmahoney> I'd be fine with this data ONLY living on the master, but > dmahoney> having it survive things like named-compilezone or rndc > dmahoney> freeze/thaw, or the slew of DDNS updates that things like ACME > dmahoney> DNS-01 requires. > > dmahon

Re: [DNSOP] proposal: Covert in-band zone data

2019-07-30 Thread Paul Ebersman
dmahoney> I'd be fine with this data ONLY living on the master, but dmahoney> having it survive things like named-compilezone or rndc dmahoney> freeze/thaw, or the slew of DDNS updates that things like ACME dmahoney> DNS-01 requires. dmahoney> Effectively, this would be an internal-only DNS record

Re: [DNSOP] proposal: Covert in-band zone data

2019-07-30 Thread Paul Ebersman
rharolde> If you are looking at putting it outside the zone, it occurs rharolde> to me that any of the IPAM solutions have a database where you rharolde> can attach information to records, zones, IP addresses, rharolde> etc. Even Active Directory can probably do that. "Buy a commercial IPAM" isn't

Re: [DNSOP] proposal: Covert in-band zone data

2019-07-30 Thread Bob Harold
On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 4:16 PM Paul Ebersman wrote: > ebersman> Actually, I think this moves your goal nicely. If we could > ebersman> have things marked as "not zone data, sensitive" and dealt > ebersman> with only over a covert channel after various auth/acl checks > ebersman> are done, it wou

Re: [DNSOP] proposal: Covert in-band zone data

2019-07-30 Thread Paul Ebersman
ebersman> Actually, I think this moves your goal nicely. If we could ebersman> have things marked as "not zone data, sensitive" and dealt ebersman> with only over a covert channel after various auth/acl checks ebersman> are done, it would be easy enough to have metadata that won't ebersman> leak.

Re: [DNSOP] proposal: Covert in-band zone data

2019-07-30 Thread Dan Mahoney
On Tue, 30 Jul 2019, Paul Ebersman wrote: > I was also one of those folks that put things in txt zone files for > years. My whole IP address management was comments in the in-addr.arpa > zones. While I went to dynamic zones to make DNSSEC easy and lost that, > I still see value in things that s

Re: [DNSOP] proposal: Covert in-band zone data

2019-07-30 Thread Paul Ebersman
I was also one of those folks that put things in txt zone files for years. My whole IP address management was comments in the in-addr.arpa zones. While I went to dynamic zones to make DNSSEC easy and lost that, I still see value in things that should be attachable to a zone but not zone data and no

Re: [DNSOP] proposal: Covert in-band zone data

2019-07-30 Thread Dan Mahoney
On Thu, 25 Jul 2019, Paul Ebersman wrote: > olafur> My suggestion is to take a step back and say we have outgrown > olafur> AXFR and we need better mechanism to sync various servers. > > olafur> Lets start work on a new "SYNC Name servers" protocol that can > olafur> meet modern requirements >

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