Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-arends-private-use-tld

2020-06-14 Thread John Levine
In article you write: >you've got a point - why not just include all 43? I think because on any real network, at least 41 of them will not be used, and there's no way to guess which. While I think that these non-ccTLDs are as good a candidate as we're ever going to find for TLDs on which you can

Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-arends-private-use-tld

2020-06-14 Thread Michael StJohns
On 6/14/2020 5:53 PM, Paul Wouters wrote: On Sun, 14 Jun 2020, Michael StJohns wrote: That said, I'd prefer it if the document selected a few (<=10) codes from these ranges so that filtering may be built into various servers and clients to prevent leakage. Then you would expect DNS libraries

Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-arends-private-use-tld

2020-06-14 Thread Paul Wouters
On Sun, 14 Jun 2020, Michael StJohns wrote: That said, I'd prefer it if the document selected a few (<=10) codes from these ranges so that filtering may be built into various servers and clients to prevent leakage.  Then you would expect DNS libraries and recursive servers to treat the select

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Call for Adoption: draft-arends-private-use-tld

2020-06-14 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Jun 14, 2020, at 12:30 PM, Rubens Kuhl wrote: > > I wonder what would have happened if this RFC was available a time before > IDNs were defined, someone decided to use .xn and assume xn was only an > internal use thing. As the IDN WG was trying to figure out how to make internationalized d

Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-arends-private-use-tld

2020-06-14 Thread Michael StJohns
Roy et al - Is there a document from ICANN taking a position on the assignment of TLDs based on  ISO3166 assignments? When Jon was doing this he was adamant about following their lead - rather than having to make political decisions about what was a country.  The main role he had was not the

Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-arends-private-use-tld

2020-06-14 Thread John Levine
In article <29a6a711-3641-4e9b-bf07-8d9e66056...@nic.br> you write: > >I wonder what would have happened if this RFC was available a time before IDNs >were defined, someone >decided to use .xn and assume xn was only an internal use thing. I suppose we would find out how much broken software looke

Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-arends-private-use-tld

2020-06-14 Thread Rubens Kuhl
I wonder what would have happened if this RFC was available a time before IDNs were defined, someone decided to use .xn and assume xn was only an internal use thing. Rubens > On 12 Jun 2020, at 12:12, Tim Wicinski wrote: > > > All, > > As we stated in the meeting and in our chairs actions

Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-arends-private-use-tld

2020-06-14 Thread Roy Arends
Hi > On 14 Jun 2020, at 14:59, S Moonesamy wrote: > > Hi Roy, Ed, > At 08:12 AM 12-06-2020, Tim Wicinski wrote: >> Please review this draft to see if you think it is suitable for adoption by >> DNSOP, and comments to the list, clearly stating your view. > > It is difficult for me to take a pos

Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-arends-private-use-tld

2020-06-14 Thread S Moonesamy
Hi Roy, Ed, At 08:12 AM 12-06-2020, Tim Wicinski wrote: Please review this draft to see if you think it is suitable for adoption by DNSOP, and comments to the list, clearly stating your view. It is difficult for me to take a position on the adoption of this draft as I don't have enough informa

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Call for Adoption: draft-arends-private-use-tld

2020-06-14 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Jun 13, 2020, at 2:39 PM, Geoff Huston wrote: > I believe that the IETF passed responsibility for the determination of policy > regarding the DNS namespace to what we now call ICANN some decades ago, and > in line with that transfer of role and responsibility such discussions should > take