Re: [DNSOP] Updated: Compact Denial of Existence

2023-03-29 Thread Paul Vixie
Christian Elmerot wrote on 2023-03-29 08:24: On 2023-03-29 15:45, Paul Vixie wrote: however, olafur's original CF blog post about CDoE also talked about packet size (desiring explicitly to fit in 512b). justification was about fragmentation avoidance, not CPU time needed to construct

[DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation-12.txt

2023-03-29 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This Internet-Draft is a work item of the Domain Name System Operations (DNSOP) WG of the IETF. Title : Fragmentation Avoidance in DNS Authors : Kazunori Fujiwara Paul

Re: [DNSOP] Updated: Compact Denial of Existence

2023-03-29 Thread Christian Elmerot
On 2023-03-29 15:45, Paul Vixie wrote: Joe Abley wrote on 2023-03-29 01:56: Hi Paul, On Tue, Mar 28, 2023 at 14:51, Paul Vixie ... for perspective, no root name server has deployed this alternative form of Denial of Existence, ... Root servers don't do online signing; they serve a

Re: [DNSOP] Updated: Compact Denial of Existence

2023-03-29 Thread Paul Vixie
Joe Abley wrote on 2023-03-29 01:56: Hi Paul, On Tue, Mar 28, 2023 at 14:51, Paul Vixie ... for perspective, no root name server has deployed this alternative form of Denial of Existence, ... Root servers don't do online signing; they serve a pre-signed zone. They don't have a

Re: [DNSOP] Updated: Compact Denial of Existence

2023-03-29 Thread Joe Abley
Hi Paul, On Tue, Mar 28, 2023 at 14:51, Paul Vixie wrote: > Viktor Dukhovni wrote on 2023-03-27 18:00: >> >> * How compelling is compact DoE? > > that may depend on the beholder's eye. for perspective, no root name > server has deployed this alternative form of Denial of Existence, and i >

Re: [DNSOP] Updated: Compact Denial of Existence

2023-03-29 Thread Florian Obser
On 2023-03-28 05:51 -07, Paul Vixie wrote: > see inline. > > Viktor Dukhovni wrote on 2023-03-27 18:00: >> [ Multi-response to four upthread messages. ] >> --- >> ... >> A possibly inconvenient question, just to make sure we're not >> ignoring >> the obvious sceptical position: >> * How

Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-glue-is-not-optional-07 vs. sibling glue

2023-03-29 Thread Tim Wicinski
To follow up with Shumon and Duane's comments, the title of the document was changed over time to "DNS Glue Requirements in Referral Responses" to more accurately reflect the document's contents. The datatracker name did not change to reflect that. tim On Tue, Mar 28, 2023 at 9:58 PM Wessels,