[DNSOP] Last Call: (DNS Error Reporting) to Proposed Standard

2023-10-16 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from the Domain Name System Operations WG (dnsop) to consider the following document: - 'DNS Error Reporting' as Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comme

Re: [DNSOP] draft-thomassen-dnsop-generalized-dns-notify and draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bootstrapping

2023-10-16 Thread John R Levine
I thinnk you're agreeing that we should add notifications even though we can imagine a wide range of so-far nonexistent ways to limit the cost of scanning. My thought is that the notify is for the domain to be signed, so there's no scanning, just parent checks to see whether it likes the new k

Re: [DNSOP] draft-thomassen-dnsop-generalized-dns-notify and draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bootstrapping

2023-10-16 Thread Brian Dickson
On Fri, Oct 13, 2023 at 10:48 AM John Levine wrote: > I was looking at these two drafts. The first one says that scanning > for CDS updates is bad, so use NOTIFY(CDS) rather than scanning. The > second one says to scan for DS bootstrap. I am experiencing cognitive > dissonance. > I believe a mo

Re: [DNSOP] scanning doesn't scale, draft-thomassen-dnsop-generalized-dns-notify and draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bootstrapping

2023-10-16 Thread Peter Thomassen
John, On 10/16/23 18:19, John R Levine wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2023, Peter Thomassen wrote: 3. the parent obtains a copy of a signaling zone and walks the signaling records published there (at _signal.$NS, such as _signal.jo.ns.cloudflare.com), If you think about it for a moment, I did :-)

Re: [DNSOP] scanning doesn't scale, draft-thomassen-dnsop-generalized-dns-notify and draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bootstrapping

2023-10-16 Thread John R Levine
On Mon, 16 Oct 2023, Peter Thomassen wrote: 1. the parent receives an updated NS RRset, 3. the parent obtains a copy of a signaling zone and walks the signaling records published there (at _signal.$NS, such as _signal.jo.ns.cloudflare.com), If you think about it for a moment, #3 doesn't work

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] AD Review of: draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-error-reporting

2023-10-16 Thread Warren Kumari
On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 5:46 PM, Roy Arends wrote: > Warren, > > Thanks for your feedback. > > I can add to the last line of the second paragraph in the abstract as > follows > > Original: > To mitigate this lack of feedback, this document describes a method for a > validating recursive resolver

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-structured-dns-error-06.txt

2023-10-16 Thread Ralf Weber
Moin! On 16 Oct 2023, at 12:37, Peter Thomassen wrote: > I share this concern (and Eric's, where the error page is an impersonation of > the target page!), and am not convinced that the potential benefit is larger > than the harm. As said before an interstitial page created by the browser befor

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bootstrapping

2023-10-16 Thread Peter Thomassen
Hi all, For others following along: Upon Tim's suggestion towards the end of this WGLC, I had sent notes to a handful of ICANN folks who are involved with DNSSEC, but who may not be subscribed this list. I forwarded the WGLC message to them on Sep 29 and extended Tim's invitation to offer rele

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-structured-dns-error-06.txt

2023-10-16 Thread Peter Thomassen
Nargh, I forgot my main point, which was on the suggestion in the security considerations to only diepslay "c"/"j"/"o" iff the resolver has sufficient reputation, according to some local policy (e.g., user configuration, administrative configuration, or a built-in list of respectable

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-structured-dns-error-06.txt

2023-10-16 Thread Peter Thomassen
On 10/13/23 10:05, tirumal reddy wrote: The above attack and possible mitigation is discussed in the security considerations section of the draft, please see the snip below: A client might choose to display the information in the "c", "j", and "o" fields if and only if the encrypted

Re: [DNSOP] draft-thomassen-dnsop-generalized-dns-notify and draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bootstrapping

2023-10-16 Thread Peter Thomassen
John, On 10/13/23 19:48, John Levine wrote: I was looking at these two drafts. The first one says that scanning for CDS updates is bad, so use NOTIFY(CDS) rather than scanning. The second one says to scan for DS bootstrap. No, draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bootstrapping doesn't say that at all. The