Re: [DNSOP] SRV and HTTP

2018-07-11 Thread Nico Williams
On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 08:51:43AM +1000, Mark Andrews wrote: > >>> 1) is addressed by defining a new type(s) rather than using prefixes. > > > > While that is correct, and truly, it is trivial to implement, it is not > > trivial to deploy: too many DNS hosting providers would have to update > > U

Re: [DNSOP] SRV and HTTP

2018-07-11 Thread Nico Williams
> > On 11 Jul 2018, at 11:30 am, Mark Andrews wrote: > > > > > > On 11 Jul 2018, at 3:55 am, Joe Abley wrote: > > > > > > > > *cups hand to ear* > > > > > > > > Was that the sound of a distant desire to specify use of SRV for > > > > HTTP? > > > > I think there are three main objections. > > >

Re: [DNSOP] new DNS classes

2017-07-08 Thread Nico Williams
On Sun, Jul 09, 2017 at 11:58:51AM +1000, Mark Andrews wrote: > One can do something similar in any scripting language. Sure. The people on this list can, and many others too. Still, all of us together are a tiny proportion of the users that would need to be able to. > So no it isn't hard to us

Re: [DNSOP] new DNS classes

2017-07-07 Thread Nico Williams
On Fri, Jul 07, 2017 at 11:27:45AM -0700, william manning wrote: > You need a better imagination then. mDNS is a crippled DNS implementation > that was hobbled on purpose. HS was/is an entirely different addressing > scheme that emerged from project Athena @ MIT. To the extent that when all >

Re: [DNSOP] new DNS classes

2017-07-07 Thread Nico Williams
On Fri, Jul 07, 2017 at 03:32:21PM +0200, David Cake wrote: > > On 5 Jul 2017, at 10:47 am, Randy Bush wrote: > > > > i think avoiding icann is a red herring. if the draft in question had > > done a decent job of exploring the taxa of needs for name resolution > > outside of the 'normal' topolog

Re: [DNSOP] new DNS classes

2017-07-07 Thread Nico Williams
On Fri, Jul 07, 2017 at 11:37:39AM -0500, Nico Williams wrote: > On Fri, Jul 07, 2017 at 08:09:30AM -0700, Paul Vixie wrote: > > Nico Williams wrote: > > >... > > > > ... > > > > i know which future i'd rather live in. i also feel in-year pressure

Re: [DNSOP] new DNS classes

2017-07-07 Thread Nico Williams
On Fri, Jul 07, 2017 at 08:09:30AM -0700, Paul Vixie wrote: > Nico Williams wrote: > >... > > > >I'm well aware that as to clients and servers, deploying new RR types is > >easy. The hard part is the management backend and UIs. Not all of them > >allow

Re: [DNSOP] new DNS classes

2017-07-07 Thread Nico Williams
On Fri, Jul 07, 2017 at 04:56:37PM +1000, Mark Andrews wrote: > In message <20170707055315.GC3393@localhost>, Nico Williams writes: > > We've struggled with this in KITTEN WG. Deploying the URI RR type when > > you're using a hosting service can be anywhere from ann

Re: [DNSOP] new DNS classes

2017-07-06 Thread Nico Williams
On Fri, Jul 07, 2017 at 07:52:36AM +1000, Mark Andrews wrote: > In message <20170706153955.GB3393@localhost>, Nico Williams writes: > > So new classes will only be useful to extend the IN-class RR type > > namespace. We won't get there. New RR types can be very diff

Re: [DNSOP] new DNS classes

2017-07-06 Thread Nico Williams
On Thu, Jul 06, 2017 at 11:15:34AM -0400, John C Klensin wrote: > --On Thursday, July 6, 2017 00:36 -0400 Phillip Hallam-Baker > wrote: > > The X.500 and UDDI models were broken because there is no > > point in putting information into a directory if the service > > can return it in a service hand

Re: [DNSOP] [apps-discuss] Last Call: (A NULL MX Resource Record for Domains that Accept No Mail) to Proposed Standard

2014-07-19 Thread Nico Williams
On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 01:39:53PM -0400, John C Klensin wrote: > > - 'A NULL MX Resource Record for Domains that Accept No Mail' > >as Proposed Standard When I first saw this and your reply I thought "what the heck is he talking about, it's so obviously a good idea". Then I read sections 4.3