Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: (Moving DNSSEC Lookaside Validation (DLV) to Historic Status) to Informational RFC

2019-09-05 Thread Randy Bush
> I support this. DLV was a mistake yup. but resistance was futile. randy ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop

Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: (Moving DNSSEC Lookaside Validation (DLV) to Historic Status) to Informational RFC

2019-09-05 Thread Randy Bush
> I remember scaring a bunch of people at a NANOG meeting by suggesting > that we should have an alternate method of establishing trust, and > that method should be non-hierarchical (or perhaps > "counter-hierarchical"). I believe I used "DLV-like" to describe it > and I remember the reactions I go

Re: [DNSOP] Minor editorial change to draft-ietf-dnsop-sutld-ps

2017-07-04 Thread Randy Bush
> The Special-Use Domain Names Problem Statement document unsurprisingly > contains a list of problems. is there a companion document with the list of benefits/advantages? or is thins just one of those ietf documents from on high meant to kill something? randy, who does not have a dog in this fi

Re: [DNSOP] Minor editorial change to draft-ietf-dnsop-sutld-ps

2017-07-04 Thread Randy Bush
>>> The Special-Use Domain Names Problem Statement document unsurprisingly >>> contains a list of problems. >> >> is there a companion document with the list of benefits/advantages? > > It's a list of problems, not solutions, so there aren't benefits > and/or advantages. so there are no advntage

Re: [DNSOP] Minor editorial change to draft-ietf-dnsop-sutld-ps

2017-07-04 Thread Randy Bush
>> is there a companion document with the list of benefits/advantages? >> or is thins just one of those ietf documents from on high meant to >> kill something? > > This is a very good question. We weren’t asked to answer that > question, so we didn’t. how depressing. one obvious curiousity is w

Re: [DNSOP] Minor editorial change to draft-ietf-dnsop-sutld-ps

2017-07-04 Thread Randy Bush
>> how depressing. one obvious curiousity is who asked the one-sided >> question? otoh, maybe i don't want to know. but i wish you had >> perceived a wider responsibility to the community. > > It was discussed at length in the working group, so I would say that > you could In principle have rai

Re: [DNSOP] Minor editorial change to draft-ietf-dnsop-sutld-ps

2017-07-04 Thread Randy Bush
>> i would offer to put my keyboard where my mouth is. but i fear that, >> at the bottom, i would have the unreasonable desire for dns classes >> to support these kinds of things. i.e. i don't think we have a clean >> fix. but it would be nice to document the good with the bad. > > That sounds

Re: [DNSOP] new DNS classes

2017-07-05 Thread Randy Bush
i think avoiding icann is a red herring. if the draft in question had done a decent job of exploring the taxa of needs for name resolution outside of the 'normal' topology, we would have the start of a base on which to discuss this. randy ___ DNSOP mai

Re: [DNSOP] new DNS classes

2017-07-06 Thread Randy Bush
> DNS is not a directory, but when your only off-the-shelf choices are DNS > or LDAP... this is the ietf. do not ignore bgp and ldp. ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop

Re: [DNSOP] new DNS classes

2017-07-09 Thread Randy Bush
while i enjoy berating vendors for bugs and poor feature sets as much as the next person, well maybe more, it's a target rich environment. if we could come to agreement on what the right thing is, what we actually want here, we could at least beat them on the right vector. but as i said at the be

Re: [DNSOP] [dns-operations] hong kong workshop, day 2, live link

2014-12-09 Thread Randy Bush
> Complementing what Edmon Chung mentioned that root-servers was already > reserved in the last new gTLD round, here follows the complete list of > reserved names: > > AFRINIC > IANA-SERVERS > NRO > ALAC > ICANN > RFC-EDITOR > APNIC > IESG > RIPE > ARIN > IETF > ROOT-SERVERS > ASO > INTERNIC > RSS

Re: [DNSOP] [dns-operations] hong kong workshop, day 2, live link

2014-12-09 Thread Randy Bush
>> this is an amusing list. i can understand EXAMPLE, LOCALHOST, and TEST. >> maybe even WHOIS and WWW. but the rest sure look as if lawyers wanted >> and got what is in effect a super trademark. > > Its also missing one thats actually really important to be reserved: > .onion. very much agree

Re: [DNSOP] [dns-operations] dnsop-any-notimp violates the DNS standards

2015-03-13 Thread Randy Bush
> What problem are we specifically trying to solve here again? not break things that are working randy ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop