Re: [DNSOP] HTTPS SVCB no service available signal.

2020-07-11 Thread Joe Abley
Hi Mark, On 10 Jul 2020, at 21:21, Mark Andrews wrote: > Joe is trying to CHANGE the specification of MNAME and I’m pointing out some > of the potential uses of the existing specification. I think what I am actually trying to do is propose a value for the MNAME field in cases where there is

Re: [DNSOP] HTTPS SVCB no service available signal.

2020-07-10 Thread Mark Andrews
> On 11 Jul 2020, at 02:41, Brian Dickson wrote: > > (Apologies for any weird quoting-style/depth issues, mail user agents aren't > terribly consistent.) > > On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 8:03 PM Mark Andrews wrote: > > > > On 10 Jul 2020, at 11:53, Joe Abley wrote: > > > > On 9 Jul 2020, at

Re: [DNSOP] HTTPS SVCB no service available signal.

2020-07-10 Thread Dick Franks
On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 at 23:18, Joe Abley wrote: > On Jul 9, 2020, at 17:18, Ben Schwartz > wrote: > > This seems like a reasonable idea to me. We should be able to incorporate > this for the next draft revision. > > > I guess I'll mention that when I suggested MNAME=. to indicate that a zone >

Re: [DNSOP] HTTPS SVCB no service available signal.

2020-07-10 Thread Joe Abley
On 9 Jul 2020, at 23:02, Mark Andrews wrote: >>> When you change the purpose of a field you have to consider the existing >>> users of that field. >> >> The only purpose of MNAME today that I am aware of is to identify the target >> for a DNS UPDATE. If you know of another way that the field

Re: [DNSOP] HTTPS SVCB no service available signal.

2020-07-10 Thread Brian Dickson
(Apologies for any weird quoting-style/depth issues, mail user agents aren't terribly consistent.) On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 8:03 PM Mark Andrews wrote: > > > > On 10 Jul 2020, at 11:53, Joe Abley wrote: > > > > On 9 Jul 2020, at 18:48, Mark Andrews wrote: > > > > > By that logic, DNS UPDATE

Re: [DNSOP] HTTPS SVCB no service available signal.

2020-07-09 Thread Mark Andrews
> On 10 Jul 2020, at 11:53, Joe Abley wrote: > > On 9 Jul 2020, at 18:48, Mark Andrews wrote: > >> On 10 Jul 2020, at 08:17, Joe Abley wrote: >> >>> On Jul 9, 2020, at 17:18, Ben Schwartz >>> wrote: >>> This seems like a reasonable idea to me. We should be able to incorporate

Re: [DNSOP] HTTPS SVCB no service available signal.

2020-07-09 Thread Brian Dickson
On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 3:49 PM Mark Andrews wrote: > > > > On 10 Jul 2020, at 08:17, Joe Abley wrote: > > > > On Jul 9, 2020, at 17:18, Ben Schwartz 40google@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > > > >> This seems like a reasonable idea to me. We should be able to > incorporate this for the next draft

Re: [DNSOP] HTTPS SVCB no service available signal.

2020-07-09 Thread Joe Abley
On 9 Jul 2020, at 18:48, Mark Andrews wrote: > On 10 Jul 2020, at 08:17, Joe Abley wrote: > >> On Jul 9, 2020, at 17:18, Ben Schwartz >> wrote: >> >>> This seems like a reasonable idea to me. We should be able to incorporate >>> this for the next draft revision. >> >> I guess I'll

Re: [DNSOP] HTTPS SVCB no service available signal.

2020-07-09 Thread Mark Andrews
> On 10 Jul 2020, at 08:17, Joe Abley wrote: > > On Jul 9, 2020, at 17:18, Ben Schwartz > wrote: > >> This seems like a reasonable idea to me. We should be able to incorporate >> this for the next draft revision. > > I guess I'll mention that when I suggested MNAME=. to indicate that a

Re: [DNSOP] HTTPS SVCB no service available signal.

2020-07-09 Thread Tommy Pauly
+1 When implementing the client, this case needs to be caught anyhow (the error of aliasing to your own domain), so it has the effect of indicating that no service is valid. This suggestion turns this case from an error (which still had the desired effect), to a proper signal. Tommy > On Jul

Re: [DNSOP] HTTPS SVCB no service available signal.

2020-07-09 Thread Joe Abley
On Jul 9, 2020, at 17:18, Ben Schwartz wrote: This seems like a reasonable idea to me. We should be able to incorporate this for the next draft revision. I guess I'll mention that when I suggested MNAME=. to indicate that a zone did not accept dynamic updates, the proposal was roundly shot

[DNSOP] HTTPS SVCB no service available signal.

2020-07-09 Thread Mark Andrews
We should use “HTTPS 0 .” to signal that there is no service offered. Similarly for SVCB. Currently “.” has no useful purpose in the alias form. -- Mark Andrews ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop