Re: [DNSOP] Looking for IANA registry for --xn

2016-10-07 Thread Robert Edmonds
Jim Reid wrote: > > On 7 Oct 2016, at 03:33, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote: > > > > Protocol matters. And just because IANA does 'assignments' that are not > > 'registrations' doesn't mean that is right or should continue. > > I’m sure the RIRs and the hundreds of millions of people who are using

Re: [DNSOP] Looking for IANA registry for --xn

2016-10-07 Thread Jim Reid
> On 7 Oct 2016, at 03:33, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote: > > Protocol matters. And just because IANA does 'assignments' that are not > 'registrations' doesn't mean that is right or should continue. I’m sure the RIRs and the hundreds of millions of people who are using IP addresses because of IA

Re: [DNSOP] Looking for IANA registry for --xn

2016-10-06 Thread Phillip Hallam-Baker
No it is not a pedantic difference. If it isn't in a registry it didn't happen. It is like when someone decided to do an April Fools RFC which used a code point in PKIX space that wasn't actually registered with IANA. That caused some real chaos. Protocol matters. And just because IANA does 'ass

Re: [DNSOP] Looking for IANA registry for --xn

2016-10-06 Thread Paul Hoffman
On 6 Oct 2016, at 18:09, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote: On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 5:13 PM, Jaap Akkerhuis wrote: RFC 3490 does say something about the ACE prefix. ​It says it has been registered but not where and there is no IANA registry that references RFC3490​ It does not say it was "register

Re: [DNSOP] Looking for IANA registry for --xn

2016-10-06 Thread Phillip Hallam-Baker
On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 5:13 PM, Jaap Akkerhuis wrote: > Robert Edmonds writes: > > > Donald Eastlake wrote: > > > Sure, you can consider the root zone to be the registry for TLDs but > the > > > point is the xn-- labels are recommended to be interpreted specially > at the > > > user interfac

Re: [DNSOP] Looking for IANA registry for --xn

2016-10-06 Thread Jaap Akkerhuis
Robert Edmonds writes: > Donald Eastlake wrote: > > Sure, you can consider the root zone to be the registry for TLDs but the > > point is the xn-- labels are recommended to be interpreted specially at the > > user interface at all levels... > > Nor would this say anything about "CCHH" pref

Re: [DNSOP] Looking for IANA registry for --xn

2016-10-06 Thread Robert Edmonds
Donald Eastlake wrote: > Sure, you can consider the root zone to be the registry for TLDs but the > point is the xn-- labels are recommended to be interpreted specially at the > user interface at all levels... Nor would this say anything about "CCHH" prefixed labels in general. At the TLD level t

Re: [DNSOP] Looking for IANA registry for --xn

2016-10-06 Thread Donald Eastlake
Hi, On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 3:14 PM, Jim Reid wrote: > > On 6 Oct 2016, at 18:59, Donald Eastlake wrote: > > I don't believe there is a registry. > > Actually there is. Sort of: % whois -h whois.iana.org テスト > % IANA WHOIS server > % for more information on IANA, visit http://www.iana.org > % T

Re: [DNSOP] Looking for IANA registry for --xn

2016-10-06 Thread Jim Reid
> On 6 Oct 2016, at 18:59, Donald Eastlake wrote: > > I don't believe there is a registry. Actually there is. Sort of: % whois -h whois.iana.org テスト % IANA WHOIS server % for more information on IANA, visit http://www.iana.org % This query returned 1 object domain: テスト domain-ace: XN-

Re: [DNSOP] Looking for IANA registry for --xn

2016-10-06 Thread Paul Hoffman
On 6 Oct 2016, at 10:08, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote: I have been looking for the IANA registry in which the IDNA prefix xn-- is allocated and have not been able to find it. I can see the following possibilities 1) There isn't such a registry. The allocation is purely ad hoc 2) There is a regi

Re: [DNSOP] Looking for IANA registry for --xn

2016-10-06 Thread Donald Eastlake
I don't believe there is a registry. It would seem reasonable to reserve labels starting with all other [a-z][a-z]-- besides xn-- and establish a registry. (To avoid people trying to squat on names in advance, the "xn" was selected by the same sort of publicly verifiable random process as nomcom vo

Re: [DNSOP] Looking for IANA registry for --xn

2016-10-06 Thread Phillip Hallam-Baker
​​ On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 1:24 PM, wrote: > > >I have been looking for the IANA registry in which the IDNA prefix xn-- > is allocated and have not been able to find it. I can see the following > possibilities > > >1) There isn't such a registry. The allocation is purely ad hoc > > >2) There is

Re: [DNSOP] Looking for IANA registry for --xn

2016-10-06 Thread nalini.elkins
>I have been looking for the IANA registry in which the IDNA prefix xn-- is >allocated and have not been able to find it. I can see the following >possibilities >1) There isn't such a registry. The allocation is purely ad hoc >2) There is a registry but none of the IDNA RFCs bother to list it

[DNSOP] Looking for IANA registry for --xn

2016-10-06 Thread Phillip Hallam-Baker
I have been looking for the IANA registry in which the IDNA prefix xn-- is allocated and have not been able to find it. I can see the following possibilities 1) There isn't such a registry. The allocation is purely ad hoc 2) There is a registry but none of the IDNA RFCs bother to list it as a nor