Re: [DNSOP] Proposal for a side-meeting on services centralization at IETF 104 Prague

On Mar 14, 2019, at 10:41 AM, Ralf Weber wrote: > Well as you said it is something that will not get consensus at the IETF, so > why work on that? However as you said these RDNS control planes exist in real > life and even if there is no IETF standard for it, the IETF should consider > actual d

Re: [DNSOP] Proposal for a side-meeting on services centralization at IETF 104 Prague

Moin! On 13 Mar 2019, at 20:48, Ted Lemon wrote: On Mar 12, 2019, at 2:52 PM, Paul Vixie wrote: please do not relegate discussions about the loss of operator control over the RDNS control plane Although it’s certainly true that DNS is used as a control plane by many operators, there is no

Re: [DNSOP] Proposal for a side-meeting on services centralization at IETF 104 Prague

On Thursday, 14 March 2019 00:48:53 UTC Ted Lemon wrote: > On Mar 12, 2019, at 2:52 PM, Paul Vixie wrote: > > please do not relegate discussions about the loss of operator control over > > the RDNS control plane > > Although it’s certainly true that DNS is used as a control plane by many > operat

Re: [DNSOP] Proposal for a side-meeting on services centralization at IETF 104 Prague

On Mar 12, 2019, at 2:52 PM, Paul Vixie wrote: > please do not relegate discussions about the loss of operator control over > the > RDNS control plane Although it’s certainly true that DNS is used as a control plane by many operators, there is no standard “RDNS control plane.” If you think t

Re: [DNSOP] Proposal for a side-meeting on services centralization at IETF 104 Prague

On Tuesday, 12 March 2019 09:01:42 UTC Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 06:57:03PM +0100, > Vittorio Bertola wrote > > a message of 18 lines which said: > > Moreover, centralization is not the only Do*-related problem > > category that has been raised (my draft alone lists e

Re: [DNSOP] Proposal for a side-meeting on services centralization at IETF 104 Prague

> Il 12 marzo 2019 alle 10.01 Stephane Bortzmeyer ha > scritto: > > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 06:57:03PM +0100, > Vittorio Bertola wrote > a message of 18 lines which said: > > > Moreover, centralization is not the only Do*-related problem > > category that has been raised (my draft alone

Re: [DNSOP] Proposal for a side-meeting on services centralization at IETF 104 Prague

On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 06:57:03PM +0100, Vittorio Bertola wrote a message of 18 lines which said: > Moreover, centralization is not the only Do*-related problem > category that has been raised (my draft alone lists eight others). IMHO, this is precisely the biggest problem with these three d

Re: [DNSOP] Proposal for a side-meeting on services centralization at IETF 104 Prague

On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 01:59:25PM -0400, Allison Mankin wrote a message of 94 lines which said: > Perfect idea, very good use of the Wednesday slot. New date and place registered at , wednesday, Karlin 1/2, 1500 to 1700. (Note the

Re: [DNSOP] Proposal for a side-meeting on services centralization at IETF 104 Prague

> Il 11 marzo 2019 alle 18.02 Stephane Bortzmeyer ha > scritto: > > It was suggested Reference necessary to have a > side meeting in Prague at IETF 104. I propose monday, 1400-1600 in > Tyrolka. The proposal is at > . You > are welcom

[DNSOP] Proposal for a side-meeting on services centralization at IETF 104 Prague

[Resent with the correct list of working groups.] [Sorry for the long list of working groups but the discussion already started in different places.] There are been some discussion about DoH (DNS-over-HTTPS, RFC 8484) deployment and the risk of centralization of Internet services. (See for instan

[DNSOP] Proposal for a side-meeting on services centralization at IETF 104 Prague

[Sorry for the long list of working groups but the discussion already started in different places.] There are been some discussion about DoH (DNS-over-HTTPS, RFC 8484) deployment and the risk of centralization of Internet services. (See for instance drafts [this is not an endorsement] draft-bertol