[DNSOP] Re: [Ext] Request: Review changes - draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc7958bis-03 → 04.

2024-08-29 Thread Michael StJohns
On 8/29/2024 9:14 PM, Warren Kumari wrote: Yes, I might *personally* decide to use the IANA TA after the validUntil if they haven't published a new one. If I did, that would be entirely my own (bad) decision, and I'm clearly doing something unsupported… just like if I happen to eat a can of bea

[DNSOP] Re: [Ext] Request: Review changes - draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc7958bis-03 → 04.

2024-08-29 Thread Warren Kumari
On Thu, Aug 29, 2024 at 6:21 PM, Michael StJohns wrote: > On 8/29/2024 4:24 PM, Paul Hoffman wrote: > > On Aug 27, 2024, at 16:46, Warren Kumari > wrote: > > Thank you very much for your comments. We've had some discussions, and the > authors will be publishing a new version in the next few d

[DNSOP] Re: [Ext] Request: Review changes - draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc7958bis-03 → 04.

2024-08-29 Thread Michael StJohns
On 8/29/2024 4:24 PM, Paul Hoffman wrote: On Aug 27, 2024, at 16:46, Warren Kumari wrote: Thank you very much for your comments. We've had some discussions, and the authors will be publishing a new version in the next few days addressing these. As you can see, we have turned in -05. We think

[DNSOP] Re: [Ext] Request: Review changes - draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc7958bis-03 → 04.

2024-08-29 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Aug 27, 2024, at 16:46, Warren Kumari wrote: > > Thank you very much for your comments. We've had some discussions, and the > authors will be publishing a new version in the next few days addressing > these. As you can see, we have turned in -05. We think this deals with the comments from

[DNSOP] Re: [Ext] Request: Review changes - draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc7958bis-03 → 04.

2024-08-27 Thread Warren Kumari
On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 11:51 AM, Petr Špaček wrote: > Hi everyone, > > > Hi everyone! Thank you very much for your comments. We've had some discussions, and the authors will be publishing a new version in the next few days addressing these. In addition, I will be deferring the IESG Evaluation

[DNSOP] Re: [Ext] Request: Review changes - draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc7958bis-03 → 04.

2024-08-26 Thread Edward Lewis
On Aug 21, 2024, at 18:12, Warren Kumari wrote: > My initial email in this thread said: > > The IANA is eagerly awaiting this becoming a standard so that they can update > their trust anchor with the DNSKEY material - so, if you have any strong > objections to these changes, please let me know

[DNSOP] Re: [Ext] Request: Review changes - draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc7958bis-03 → 04.

2024-08-26 Thread Petr Špaček
Hi everyone, I'm responding only to Paul's reaction to my previous comments. I don't want discuss IANA operational procedures here so I tried to focus on the XML and it's consumers. On 21. 08. 24 0:20, Paul Hoffman wrote: On Aug 10, 2024, at 08:21, Michael StJohns wrote: On 8/9/2024 5:09 P

[DNSOP] Re: [Ext] Request: Review changes - draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc7958bis-03 → 04.

2024-08-26 Thread Michael StJohns
Hi Warren - Inline - On 8/21/2024 6:12 PM, Warren Kumari wrote: On Wed, Aug 21, 2024 at 10:28 AM, Edward Lewis wrote: On Aug 20, 2024, at 20:42, Michael StJohns mailto:m...@nthpermutation.com>> wrote: ... trimmed ... But this document is not a pure protocol-defining docume

[DNSOP] Re: [Ext] Request: Review changes - draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc7958bis-03 → 04.

2024-08-21 Thread Warren Kumari
On Wed, Aug 21, 2024 at 10:28 AM, Edward Lewis wrote: > On Aug 20, 2024, at 20:42, Michael StJohns > wrote: > > Hi Paul - > > I'm confused from your responses below - is this a WG document where the > WG gets to decide, or is this an IANA document (like the one it was > replacing) where IANA get

[DNSOP] Re: [Ext] Request: Review changes - draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc7958bis-03 → 04.

2024-08-21 Thread Michael StJohns
Hi Ed - Thanks for a thoughtful reply.  Notes in line. On 8/21/2024 10:28 AM, Edward Lewis wrote: On Aug 20, 2024, at 20:42, Michael StJohns wrote: Hi Paul - I'm confused from your responses below - is this a WG document where the WG gets to decide, or is this an IANA document (like the one

[DNSOP] Re: [Ext] Request: Review changes - draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc7958bis-03 → 04.

2024-08-21 Thread Edward Lewis
On Aug 20, 2024, at 20:42, Michael StJohns wrote: > > Hi Paul - > > I'm confused from your responses below - is this a WG document where the WG > gets to decide, or is this an IANA document (like the one it was replacing) > where IANA gets to decide? I *think* I saw you argue both ways in you

[DNSOP] Re: [Ext] Request: Review changes - draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc7958bis-03 → 04.

2024-08-20 Thread Michael StJohns
Hi Paul - I'm confused from your responses below - is this a WG document where the WG gets to decide, or is this an IANA document (like the one it was replacing) where IANA gets to decide?  I *think* I saw you argue both ways in your response below. I wish I'd seen this during or before the

[DNSOP] Re: [Ext] Request: Review changes - draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc7958bis-03 → 04.

2024-08-20 Thread Paul Hoffman
This is an omnibus reply to the messages on this thread. I believe that the -04 draft is complete, but responses to the replies below may change that. The draft is currently in Warren's hands, so he gets to decide whether a new draft is needed for any of those points. --Paul Hoffman On Aug 10

[DNSOP] Re: [Ext] Request: Review changes - draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc7958bis-03 → 04.

2024-08-15 Thread Michael StJohns
Sorry - 1-3 new issues and commentary on the previous issue. Expanding: Please Clarify:  The document does not state if this set of TAs is additive to a relying party's existing TA set or replaces them. Please Clarify:   What happens if you provide a TA with a "validUntil" in the f

[DNSOP] Re: [Ext] Request: Review changes - draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc7958bis-03 → 04.

2024-08-15 Thread Michael StJohns
Hi Peter - continues below. On 8/15/2024 5:41 AM, Peter Thomassen wrote: Hi Mike, On 8/10/24 17:21, Michael StJohns wrote: Paul - this is related directly to the newly specified inclusion of the public key material in this draft (sect 3.2 last para):     A KeyDigest element can contain bot

[DNSOP] Re: [Ext] Request: Review changes - draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc7958bis-03 → 04.

2024-08-15 Thread Petr Špaček
On 09. 08. 24 20:22, Paul Hoffman wrote: To everyone who reviewed draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc7958bis in WG Last Call: please carefully review the diff. Based on a very good IETF Last Call review from Petr Špaček, we had to make a significant technical change to the XML format, and we want to be sure

[DNSOP] Re: [Ext] Request: Review changes - draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc7958bis-03 → 04.

2024-08-15 Thread Peter Thomassen
Hi Mike, On 8/10/24 17:21, Michael StJohns wrote: Paul - this is related directly to the newly specified inclusion of the public key material in this draft (sect 3.2 last para): A KeyDigest element can contain both a Digest and a publickeyinfo named pattern. If the Digest element wou

[DNSOP] Re: [Ext] Request: Review changes - draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc7958bis-03 → 04.

2024-08-15 Thread Petr Špaček
On 10. 08. 24 17:21, Michael StJohns wrote: On 8/9/2024 5:09 PM, Paul Hoffman wrote: On Aug 9, 2024, at 12:16, Michael StJohns wrote: Two comments - one major and one very minor. Major: I'm sorry for the late comment, but I didn't realize you were planning on starting to provide prospective

[DNSOP] Re: [Ext] Request: Review changes - draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc7958bis-03 → 04.

2024-08-10 Thread Michael StJohns
Hi Paul - Inline On 8/9/2024 5:09 PM, Paul Hoffman wrote: On Aug 9, 2024, at 12:16, Michael StJohns wrote: Two comments - one major and one very minor. Major: I'm sorry for the late comment, but I didn't realize you were planning on starting to provide prospective DS's for unpublished keys

[DNSOP] Re: [Ext] Request: Review changes - draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc7958bis-03 → 04.

2024-08-09 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Aug 9, 2024, at 12:16, Michael StJohns wrote: > > Two comments - one major and one very minor. > > Major: I'm sorry for the late comment, but I didn't realize you were > planning on starting to provide prospective DS's for unpublished keys. > Telling people there's a new trust anchor, and

[DNSOP] Re: [Ext] Request: Review changes - draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc7958bis-03 → 04.

2024-08-09 Thread Michael StJohns
Two comments - one major and one very minor. Major:  I'm sorry for the late comment, but I didn't realize you were planning on starting to provide prospective DS's for unpublished keys.  Telling people there's a new trust anchor, and that the live key matches this file is one thing - easy enou

[DNSOP] Re: [Ext] Request: Review changes - draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc7958bis-03 → 04.

2024-08-09 Thread Paul Hoffman
To everyone who reviewed draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc7958bis in WG Last Call: please carefully review the diff. Based on a very good IETF Last Call review from Petr Špaček, we had to make a significant technical change to the XML format, and we want to be sure that it works for everyone. We also updated