Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis

2018-07-16 Thread Paul Hoffman
On 9 Jul 2018, at 19:28, Suzanne Woolf wrote: Thanks to all who commented. The WGLC is over and the chairs have seen strong support for this document and lots of participation in getting it right, so we’ll be advancing it for publication. The authors will be spinning up a new version, incorpo

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis

2018-07-10 Thread fujiwara
Thanks to Vladimír, > From: Vladimír Čunát > "Bailiwick" definition: I have (also) seen use like "in-bailiwick > records" in the sense being in a subdomain.  I can't really judge how > common that usage is, but it has already been discussed wrt. this draft: > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis

2018-07-09 Thread Suzanne Woolf
Thanks to all who commented. The WGLC is over and the chairs have seen strong support for this document and lots of participation in getting it right, so we’ll be advancing it for publication. The authors will be spinning up a new version, incorporating the last call comments, and we’ll submit

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis

2018-07-05 Thread Joe Abley
On Jul 5, 2018, at 19:38, George Michaelson wrote: > Only the zone authority can publish a DNSSEC signed zone. I don't know what this means exactly, but I think it's wrong. I will illustrate my thinking by using some of these words (like "publish") in the way that I understand them, to see if t

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis

2018-07-05 Thread George Michaelson
Only the zone authority can publish a DNSSEC signed zone. Anyone can claim to publish a view of a non-DNSSEC signed zone. On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 7:11 PM, Dick Franks wrote: > > On 3 July 2018 at 16:40, Joe Abley wrote: >> >> On 3 Jul 2018, at 09:11, Matthew Pounsett wrote: >> >> > This is not

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis

2018-07-05 Thread Dick Franks
On 3 July 2018 at 16:40, Joe Abley wrote: > On 3 Jul 2018, at 09:11, Matthew Pounsett wrote: > > > This is not a complete review of the latest revision.. I'm hoping to get > to that in a day or two. But I've got a question about whether something > should be added to the document.. > > > > A q

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis

2018-07-04 Thread Kal Feher
On 4/7/18 1:40 am, Joe Abley wrote: On 3 Jul 2018, at 09:11, Matthew Pounsett wrote: This is not a complete review of the latest revision.. I'm hoping to get to that in a day or two. But I've got a question about whether something should be added to the document.. A question came up in

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis

2018-07-03 Thread Joe Abley
On 3 Jul 2018, at 09:11, Matthew Pounsett wrote: > This is not a complete review of the latest revision.. I'm hoping to get to > that in a day or two. But I've got a question about whether something > should be added to the document.. > > A question came up in conversation recently about the

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis

2018-07-03 Thread Matthew Pounsett
This is not a complete review of the latest revision.. I'm hoping to get to that in a day or two. But I've got a question about whether something should be added to the document.. A question came up in conversation recently about the use of the verb "to publish" in reference to managing DNS data

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis

2018-07-03 Thread Sara Dickinson
Hi all, Two questions came up recently when writing the DNS Privacy BCP with respect to terminology (and on the dns-operations list): 1) What do folks think about adding a new definition to this document for a shortened term for DNS-over-TLS? Since we now have DoH I’ve often taken to referri

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis

2018-07-02 Thread Dick Franks
On 2 July 2018 at 00:03, Paul Hoffman wrote >8 > Well, RFC 1035 *does* say that it is in ASCII, whether we like that or not. Perhaps we need to remind ourselves what RFC1035 actually *does* say. ASCII is mentioned in three places only: 2.3.3 para 1, initially about case-insensitive characte

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis

2018-07-02 Thread Vladimír Čunát
Thanks Paul! I'm very happy with all the proposed formulation changes (your commit 0fqxn1k41). --Vladimir ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis

2018-07-01 Thread Paul Hoffman
On 27 Jun 2018, at 12:56, Dick Franks wrote: The document appears to be in good shape. However, I have some difficulty with the wording of these two paragraphs in section 2. The basic wire format for names in the global DNS is a list of labels ordered by decreasing distance from

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis

2018-07-01 Thread Paul Hoffman
On 26 Jun 2018, at 10:09, Vladimír Čunát wrote: Greetings! I really like the draft, and I'm sorry to be so late.  This is not late, especially if you really like the draft. :-) I see one minor issue just below and then a few nitpicks that I don't feel strongly about. I'm marking these in

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis

2018-06-27 Thread Dick Franks
The document appears to be in good shape. However, I have some difficulty with the wording of these two paragraphs in section 2. The basic wire format for names in the global DNS is a list of labels ordered by decreasing distance from the root, with the root label last. Each la

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis

2018-06-26 Thread Vladimír Čunát
Greetings! I really like the draft, and I'm sorry to be so late.  I see one minor issue just below and then a few nitpicks that I don't feel strongly about. > NXDOMAIN: >     "Name Error - Meaningful only for responses from an authoritative > name server, this code signifies that the domain name

[DNSOP] Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis

2018-06-22 Thread Suzanne Woolf
Colleagues, This begins the working group last call for draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis-10, "DNS Terminology”. The document has gotten significant feedback and the editors have worked hard to document current terminology usage, both among practitioners and for broader audiences; we’d like to