[DNSOP] some random dnse-triggered thoughts

2014-03-04 Thread Joe Abley
I have not reviewed all these drafts thoroughly, since I am a slacker, and so what follows is mainly a reaction to presentations and not a detailed reading of the text. So, in no particular order (hence numbering): 8. draft-hzhwm-start-tls-for-dns-00, TO not protected It seems like a potential

Re: [DNSOP] some random dnse-triggered thoughts

2014-03-05 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Tue, Mar 04, 2014 at 06:15:37PM +, Joe Abley wrote a message of 34 lines which said: > EDNS0 options are hop-by-hop. It's not obvious this is what we need, > since that makes every intermediate DNS server a potential > interception point. But perhaps that's ok anyway, if we imagine the

Re: [DNSOP] some random dnse-triggered thoughts

2014-03-05 Thread João Damas
On 05 Mar 2014, at 14:12, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > More generally, we need to decide whether we want a truly end-to-end > solution (which would be very much at odds with the architecture of > the DNS) or if we are happy to protect only the messages in transit, > leaving the issues of syping

Re: [DNSOP] some random dnse-triggered thoughts

2014-03-05 Thread Jelte Jansen
On 03/05/2014 02:40 PM, João Damas wrote: > > perhaps there is a need to separate the problem into tractable > chunks. For the part of the problem about authenticating the > recursive resolver (the fake 8.8.8.8 problem) we probably a > different solution than for the metadata snooping problem (who

Re: [DNSOP] some random dnse-triggered thoughts

2014-03-05 Thread Tim Wicinski
On 3/5/14, 3:02 PM, Jelte Jansen wrote: +1. I don't want to fight about requirements for 10 years, and it does look like there are different and competing views as to what constitutes confidentiality here. So a split into several problems, which can have shared or separate solutions, seems like