Re: DOCBOOK: A straw proposal for help topics in DocBook

2001-10-17 Thread Michael Smith
I wrote: > >>|So it looks like if we use a Section-like (instead of Chapter-like) > >>|content model for Topic, it'll mean that Topics can contain only > >>|recursive Sections, not numbered ones (Sect1-Sect5), and that > >>|Topics can't contain Refentrys at all (or Simplesect). N

Re: DOCBOOK: A straw proposal for help topics in DocBook

2001-10-17 Thread Dave Pawson
At 16:58 17/10/2001 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >There's some logic there but it would certainly be useful to support some >sort of sort of container(s) within to allow us to seperate out >the topic content. For example, a topic on "How to start your car" might >contain a discussion on what

DOCBOOK: Table problems

2001-10-17 Thread Phillip Shelton
I am using Jade and the DSSSL1.73 style sheets against DocBook4.1.2 XML to produce .RTF I have two tables one after the other and they both render as Table 0: Here is the XML file and the png is a picture of the resultant RTF file. Table problems The first table

Re: DOCBOOK: A straw proposal for help topics in DocBook

2001-10-17 Thread martin . gautier
>>|So it looks like if we use a Section-like (instead of Chapter-like) >>|content model for Topic, it'll mean that Topics can contain only >>|recursive Sections, not numbered ones (Sect1-Sect5), and that >>|Topics can't contain Refentrys at all (or Simplesect). >>I am strongly opp

RE: DOCBOOK: Re: Page footers and Headers.

2001-10-17 Thread Phillip Shelton
Found it. The link is [EMAIL PROTECTED] though. Phill > -Original Message- > From: Karl Eichwalder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, 17 October 2001 5:24 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: DOCBOOK: Re: Page footers and Headers. > > > Norman Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes

Re: DOCBOOK: A straw proposal for help topics in DocBook

2001-10-17 Thread Norman Walsh
/ Dave Pawson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: | Guessing that 'topics' could be viewed in a similar way to | the way in which I use qanda stuff, I like the idea | of allowing it within other structures, as well as on its own. Yeah, there's a strange sort of symmetry between my website marku

Re: DOCBOOK: A straw proposal for help topics in DocBook

2001-10-17 Thread Norman Walsh
/ "Nancy (Paisner) Harrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: | I, on the other hand, am concerned with not allowing sections in the | mix, since that removes a transparent way to reuse data between | print and online delivery. If you need "sections" in a topic, use nested topics. Allowing s

Re: DOCBOOK: A straw proposal for help topics in DocBook

2001-10-17 Thread Nancy (Paisner) Harrison
> >| 3. Content model for the set-of-topics element (Helpproject). Does it >|    need to include the navigational components (ToC, LoT, Index)? >|    These seem useful only if authors want to manually author ToCs, >|    LoTs, and Indexes, instead of leaving it up to the >|    stylesheets/helpcom

Re: DOCBOOK: A straw proposal for help topics in DocBook

2001-10-17 Thread Dave Pawson
At 10:38 17/10/2001 -0400, Norman Walsh wrote: >|I think Helpproject is good as the name for a set of topics; some >|other possibilities: Helpfile, Helpvolume, Helpset. But I guess >|Helpproject seems best. > >So we need a new name for the set-of-projects wrapper. project-set? >Re

Re: DOCBOOK: A straw proposal for help topics in DocBook

2001-10-17 Thread Dave Pawson
At 13:56 16/10/2001 -0400, Norman Walsh wrote: >What's the plan: > >The overall plan is to allow people to author "Help Sets" using all of >the rich technical structure of DocBook without shoe-horning it into >the classical print book model. Guessing that 'topics' could be viewed in a similar wa

Re: DOCBOOK: A straw proposal for help topics in DocBook

2001-10-17 Thread Norman Walsh
/ Michael Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: | 1. Online-help peer to Set. Do we actually need one? What will the |processing expectations be for it? Do any of the existing help |systems -- HTML Help, Javahelp, or whatever -- provide any way for |packaging up sets of HTML Help

Re: DOCBOOK: A straw proposal for help topics in DocBook

2001-10-17 Thread Bob McIlvride
> 1. Online-help peer to Set. Do we actually need one? It would be useful for us. We currently package our book set containing documentation on all of our products, with one version installable into an online helpviewer in the QNX operating system. Most of our products can work together, an

DOCBOOK: Re: Page footers and Headers.

2001-10-17 Thread Karl Eichwalder
Norman Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > / Phillip Shelton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > | I want to put The company name in the header and the filename and author in > | the footer. > > The filename isn't available to Jade, so I don't think you can easily do > that. Yes. In the beg

Re: DOCBOOK: A straw proposal for help topics in DocBook

2001-10-17 Thread Michael Smith
Norman Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > There's been a fair amount of discussion about how to make DocBook > more help-friendly. Since we don't seem to be making a lot of progress > in the absence of a concrete proposal, attached is my first draft of a > concrete proposal. There, now there's s

Re: DOCBOOK: Page footers and Headers.

2001-10-17 Thread Yann Dirson
On Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 01:57:17PM -0400, Norman Walsh wrote: > / Phillip Shelton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > | I want to put The company name in the header and the filename and author in > | the footer. > > The filename isn't available to Jade, so I don't think you can easily do > th