Re: DOCBOOK: Re: Building Where is the bibliography ?

2002-05-06 Thread Holger Krug
On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 11:17:12AM -0400, Dan York wrote: Last time we (the DocBook Open Repository team) discussed it, the general feeling was that Make was still more broadly available than ant and was thus more appropriate. 100% agreed... warts and all, make is still the only thing

Re: DOCBOOK: Re: Building Where is the bibliography ?

2002-05-06 Thread Dave Pawson
At 11:17 06/05/2002 -0400, Dan York wrote: Last time we (the DocBook Open Repository team) discussed it, the general feeling was that Make was still more broadly available than ant and was thus more appropriate. 100% agreed... warts and all, make is still the only thing you can count on

Re: DOCBOOK: Re: Building Where is the bibliography ?

2002-05-06 Thread Dave Pawson
At 18:32 06/05/2002 +0200, Holger Krug wrote: Today it is very difficult to *make docbook*, it takes several hours to find all the resources needed, Good point Holger. Unless you've done it before, the full list of 'bits I need' are quite tiresome to track down. Worth a webpage on both oasis,

Re: DOCBOOK: Re: Building Where is the bibliography ?

2002-05-06 Thread Jirka Kosek
Dave Pawson wrote: At 11:17 06/05/2002 -0400, Dan York wrote: Last time we (the DocBook Open Repository team) discussed it, the general feeling was that Make was still more broadly available than ant and was thus more appropriate. 100% agreed... warts and all, make is still the

DOCBOOK: Re: Chapter needs a author element

2002-05-06 Thread Norman Walsh
/ Christopher J. Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: | I would like to request that the author element be placed in the chapter. If | there is a way to do this, let me know. Seems strange to have a authorblub | but not the author. If you're trying to indicate authorship of the chapter,

DOCBOOK: Re: namespace

2002-05-06 Thread Norman Walsh
/ joel amoussou [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: | Is there any namespace for DocBook? No, DocBook does not have a namespace. The primary reasons are historical. DocBook predates XML and namespaces by at least five years and there is significant legacy built on SGML DocBook in which a

DOCBOOK: Re: possible issue with fo XSLT

2002-05-06 Thread Norman Walsh
/ Vincent Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: | file, this resulted in FOP (version 0.20.3) giving an error: | [ERROR]: The id toc...book1_chapter_2 already exists in this document | | I examine the FO file and sure enough the id is indeed duplicated... Yes. I'm working on that. It's

Re: DOCBOOK: Re: Building Where is the bibliography ?

2002-05-06 Thread Dave Pawson
At 20:56 06/05/2002 +0200, Jirka Kosek wrote: I'm able to make stylesheets in Win32 environment using Cygwin. Having better and more automatically working making environment (based on make or ant) will be plus, but there are more important things I think. Agreed. Normall people are not forced

DOCBOOK: Re: Building Where is the bibliography ?

2002-05-06 Thread Norman Walsh
/ Dave Pawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: |Normall people are not forced to build stylesheet. Even if they want to |apply some patch before official release, they can usually get one or |few modifed files from CVS and copy them over existing files. Build is |neccessary only if new

Re: DOCBOOK: Re: custom xsl stylesheet and import path

2002-05-06 Thread Bob Stayton
On Wed, May 01, 2002 at 03:47:23AM +, Matt G. wrote: On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 11:06:02AM -0700, Bob Stayton wrote: That's neat trick. But I don't see an option with Saxon or xsltproc to define an entity on the command line. Which processor can do that? Sorry, I guess I might

DOCBOOK: Word template for DocBook

2002-05-06 Thread Malcolm Davis
Does anybody have suggestions for a DocBook Word template? Thanks, Malcolm

Re: DOCBOOK: Word template for DocBook

2002-05-06 Thread Ed Nixon
Take a look at YAWC (Yet Another Word Converter), http://www.yawcpro.com/ At 06:27 PM 06/05/2002 -0500, Malcolm Davis wrote: Does anybody have suggestions for a DocBook Word template? Thanks, Malcolm

Re: DOCBOOK: Re: Building Where is the bibliography ?

2002-05-06 Thread Holger Krug
On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 07:53:19PM +0100, Dave Pawson wrote: At 18:32 06/05/2002 +0200, Holger Krug wrote: Today it is very difficult to *make docbook*, it takes several hours to find all the resources needed, Worth a webpage on both oasis, docbook.org and sourceforge perhaps, just

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: No images in HTML Help!?

2002-05-06 Thread Jirka Kosek
Kraa de Simon wrote: Solution 1: use base name in html file and tell HTML Help compiler where the file actually is: span class=inlinemediaobject img src=71000.b.0.png /span [FILES] ../../images/screen/71000.b.0.png Problem: have to adjust the XSL stylesheets and don't know how...

DOCBOOK-APPS: suppressing LOT generation

2002-05-06 Thread Leos Literak
Hi, I use DSSSL to generate PDF. For last week I try to turn off List of Tables generation in PDF. Unsuccessfully :-( I was able to suppress even TOC, but LOT is always there. Could you please give me a hint, how not to generate list of tables? I use one of latest openjade and

DOCBOOK-APPS: some parameters ignored in chunk.xsl

2002-05-06 Thread Camille Bégnis
Hello, With XSL 1.50.0, xsltproc, and the following customization: 1) only index.html goes into html/ The rest is written in current directory 2) chunk.quietly is ignored Is something missing? Also, I'm wondering what the using.chunker parameter is for?? Camille.

RE: DOCBOOK-APPS: No images in HTML Help!?

2002-05-06 Thread Bradford, Denis
FWIW, we had a similar problem where we needed to point to an external graphics library (not part of the project root). We didn't want authors to have to deal with the location of the graphics (which might change anyway). Our solution is to pass in a 'graphics.dir' param from the command line.

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Experiment for Notes on Graphics in HTML

2002-05-06 Thread Paul Grosso
Ed, Thanks for the interesting experiments. Just fyi, I use Netscape 4.7x, and all the graphics look the same size. (I also have IE6.0, and I did see the expected results with IE6.0.) I realize that Netscape 4.x has pretty pitiful support in this area. However, if one is trying to generate

Fwd: Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Experiment for Notes on Graphics in HTML

2002-05-06 Thread Ed Nixon
Sorry, meant this for the list too. Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 12:51:15 -0400 To: Paul Grosso [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Ed Nixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Experiment for Notes on Graphics in HTML Paul, Thanks. As I mention in the item, proper scaling is definitely the best thing

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Experiment for Notes on Graphics in HTML

2002-05-06 Thread Paul Grosso
At 12:51 2002 05 06 -0400, Ed Nixon wrote: Thanks. As I mention in the item, proper scaling is definitely the best thing to do for numerous reasons; whatever proper might mean to a visually disabled individual. Maybe the simplest thing to do, if this seems like an important issue, would be to

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Experiment for Notes on Graphics in HTML

2002-05-06 Thread Dave Pawson
At 10:59 06/05/2002 -0500, Paul Grosso wrote: I'm not sure exactly how all this translates into what should the DocBook stylesheets do, but it does make for an interesting discussion on how to optimize automated web site generation via XSL. What timescales Paul? Netscape 4.x is time limited.

Re: Fwd: Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Experiment for Notes on Graphics in HTML

2002-05-06 Thread Dave Pawson
At 12:52 06/05/2002 -0400, Ed Nixon wrote: Thanks. As I mention in the item, proper scaling is definitely the best thing to do for numerous reasons; It is fairly intuitive Ed. I want this image, its too big/small, make it x% bigger/smaller (and keep the ht/width ratio) I'd suggest its worth

DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: Using XREF to REFNAMEDIV

2002-05-06 Thread Norman Walsh
/ Jens Emmerich [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: | most elements don't support XREFs, mostly it just doesn't make much | sense, there's nothing to display as xref-text. Yeah, but xref to refnamediv seems reasonable. Fixed for the next release... Be

DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: Can I use a CSS stylesheet?

2002-05-06 Thread Norman Walsh
/ Kraa de Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: | Just a quick question... Newbie to CSS... | | Is it possible to change the layout/presentation using CSS? (for example of | a table) Yes. | I enabled table.borders.with.css. I just fixed a bunch of bugs in that code and added a bunch of

DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: Imagedata/entityref and full pathname problem

2002-05-06 Thread Norman Walsh
/ Jens Emmerich [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: | Does anybody know *why* the XSL standard mandates the resolution of | relative URLs? Because relative URIs in entity declarations are relative to the base URI of the document in which the declaration occurs. The parser is really the only

DOCBOOK-APPS: suppressing LOT generation

2002-05-06 Thread Leos Literak
Hi, I use DSSSL to generate PDF. For last week I try to turn off List of Tables generation in PDF. Unsuccessfully :-( I was able to suppress even TOC, but LOT is always there. Could you please give me a hint, how not to generate list of tables? I use one of latest openjade and

RE: DOCBOOK-APPS: No images in HTML Help!?

2002-05-06 Thread Kraa de Simon
Hello Jirka, all, Thank you for your reply. The images do show if I open the html file directly so I guess the image path is correct. The directory structure is: ./images ./en/htmlhelp So the paths look like ../../images if I want to reference the images from the ./en/htmlhelp directory. I

DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: encoding XML

2002-05-06 Thread Norman Walsh
/ Christopher J. Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: | I am trying to encode an XML example as a programlisting entity.i am getting | the following errors. It works without the ?xml version=1.0? What parser is giving you an error? I think that's a parser bug. You can't put the XML

DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: website and subdirs problem

2002-05-06 Thread Norman Walsh
/ Jakob Voß [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: | the layout file should be something like this: | | layout | toc page=subdir.xml dir=subdir file=index.html | tocentry page=subdir\foo.xml file=foo.html/ Try subdir/foo.xml. (/ not \) Be seeing you,

DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: Saxon bug?

2002-05-06 Thread Norman Walsh
/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: | I was trying various vrsions of SAXON, but it's same. | Is only way rewriting templates in my XSL, or I haven't something | set? The latest Saxon fixes this bug. 6.5.2, I think, but maybe it's 6.5.3. Be seeing you,

DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: Slightky OT: XHTML script tag

2002-05-06 Thread Norman Walsh
/ Rory Hunter [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: | For the script tag, HTML 4 specifies that an end tag is required. | For external script files, obviously there is no content to the tags. | Thus, when using XHTML I can legally shorten this to script | blah=blah ... /, can I not? Yes, you can.

DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: Formatting segmentedlist element as a table

2002-05-06 Thread Norman Walsh
/ Trevor Jenkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: | With a name like that I think I would have found it. :-) I'm using the | DSSSL versions. And there doesn't seem to be anything equivalent. True. I apparently haven't implemented the table formatting for segmented lists. If you file a

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Experiment for Notes on Graphics in HTML

2002-05-06 Thread Ed Nixon
At 07:50 PM 06/05/2002 +0100, Dave Pawson wrote: At 10:59 06/05/2002 -0500, Paul Grosso wrote: I'm not sure exactly how all this translates into what should the DocBook stylesheets do, but it does make for an interesting discussion on how to optimize automated web site generation via XSL. What

DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: xsl-fo driver problems

2002-05-06 Thread Norman Walsh
/ Dennis Grace [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: | I'm using XSL 1.50.0 and XML-dtd-4.2 and trying to set up a driver file for | FO. My PDFs show some of the section titles on one page with the actual | section appearing on the following page. Isn't the | keep-with-next.withing-column attribute

DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: pernicious mixed content

2002-05-06 Thread Norman Walsh
/ Baurjan Ismagulov [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: | I use para within listitem. What I can't understand is, why white space | in para is significant within listitem, and not significant otherwise. | In other words, why the following construction produces leading space | on the first line:

DOCBOOK-APPS: xml docbook stylesheets with fop

2002-05-06 Thread Baráth Gábor
Hi, I have a problem with making pdf from xml-docbook. The stylesheet transforms simplelist element to fo:table without table-column, but fop wants explicit column-width propery to render the table. So, is there anybody know what can i do? Thanks. D.

DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: figure comment

2002-05-06 Thread Norman Walsh
/ Baurjan Ismagulov [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: | Hello, | | I want to use an additional text in figures (besides the title). It | shouldn't be listed in the LOF. For example: You can put a para inside the figure. Be seeing you,

DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: line breaks not reproduced in literallayout when usesaxon textinsert extension

2002-05-06 Thread Norman Walsh
/ Matthew Hobbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: | I want to include the contents of an external text file within my | DocBook XML document without making the font monospaced, and retaining | all linebreaks and whitespace within the file. I've been trying this | using saxon 6.5 (with

DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: programlisting in a table cell

2002-05-06 Thread Norman Walsh
/ Steinar Bang [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: | I've tried putting in a | colspec colnum=1 colwidth=85%/ | at the start of the tgroup, but that didn't seem to have any | effect. I think that should have worked. If the result wasn't a first column that was 85% of the width of the

DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: wiki wiki wiki

2002-05-06 Thread Norman Walsh
/ Dave Pawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: | So where's the newbie guide to wiki's, i.e. | syntax to use, etc. There's a link from the DocBook Wiki to http://purl.net/wiki/moin/ where there are some instructions. | Is it as simple as it says on the edit sheets? | No docbook submissions

DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: DocBook and Cocoon

2002-05-06 Thread Norman Walsh
/ Michael Cortez [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: | Oh, you'll love this one. | | - | java.lang.RuntimeException: 2 = 2 I think this is related to the 'array out of bounds' error with Xalan that has been discussed before. I'm trying to get it resolved by the Xalan folks as fast as I can.

DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: window= attribute for ulink?

2002-05-06 Thread Norman Walsh
/ Dennis Grace [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: | Back in November Bob and Norm briefly discussed the addition of a window | attribute to ULink to allow opening a new browser window from a link. Are | we still waiting on XLink? Has anything been done with this? Can I just | specify the window

DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: Notes on graphics and HTML

2002-05-06 Thread Norman Walsh
/ Ed Nixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: | Notes below: | | At 02:44 PM 02/05/2002 -0500, Paul Grosso wrote: |At 12:41 2002 05 01 -0700, Norman Walsh wrote: |snip |1. If only the content-area is specified, everything is fine. | (If you ask for a three inch image, that's

DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: Experiment for Notes on Graphics in HTML

2002-05-06 Thread Norman Walsh
/ Ed Nixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: | To try to increase my own understanding of what I was trying to say, | I've put together a very quick and dirty and, perhaps, superficial | page with some illustrations of cascading styles and image handling. | You can find it here: |