Re: DOCBOOK: On the size of DocBook...

2002-09-05 Thread Dave Pawson
At 19:55 05/09/2002, Paul Grosso wrote: >The tool is merely subsetting the list of tags it shows the user >when the user goes to a menu of "tags I can insert here". But >it's still valid to insert (or have) any tag in the full DTD, and >you can always click the button on the tool that says "sho

Re: DOCBOOK: On the size of DocBook...

2002-09-05 Thread ed nixon
Paul Grosso wrote: > At 15:36 2002 09 05 -0400, ed nixon wrote: >>Paul Grosso wrote: >>> > A big problem for me is that I still have not seen a satisfactory > explanation of the user requirement(s) that is(are) driving this > discussion. You are right, of course. I think the people who read this

DOCBOOK: Re: AW: Re: AW: [QUESTION] page numbers in sets/books

2002-09-05 Thread Norman Walsh
/ "Daniel S. Haischt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: | ok, this might be probably a pretty stupid question, | but how do i determine that i reached the last page | of a book? Try putting "" at the very end of the document. Then link to that. That *ought* to work.

Re: DOCBOOK: On the size of DocBook...

2002-09-05 Thread Paul Grosso
At 15:36 2002 09 05 -0400, ed nixon wrote: >Paul Grosso wrote: >>At 19:01 2002 09 05 +0100, Dave Pawson wrote: >> >>> >>>?Status quo? Seems to me that's how you operate now (TC that is) >> >>Yes, that's what I'm suggesting. > >Isn't that a little like: Let's discuss this issue by not discussing

Re: DOCBOOK: On the size of DocBook...

2002-09-05 Thread ed nixon
Paul Grosso wrote: > At 19:01 2002 09 05 +0100, Dave Pawson wrote: > >> >>?Status quo? Seems to me that's how you operate now (TC that is) > > > > Yes, that's what I'm suggesting. Isn't that a little like: Let's discuss this issue by not discussing it; we'll solve it by sweeping it from und

Re: DOCBOOK: On the size of DocBook...

2002-09-05 Thread Paul Grosso
At 19:01 2002 09 05 +0100, Dave Pawson wrote: >At 15:00 05/09/2002, Paul Grosso wrote: >>Again, just what are we trying to accomplish? Only point 2 will make >>a dent on the effort to produce tools and maintain the application. >> >>And I don't see that any of the points make a dent on the end u

AW: DOCBOOK: Re: AW: [QUESTION] page numbers in sets/books

2002-09-05 Thread Daniel S. Haischt
ok, this might be probably a pretty stupid question, but how do i determine that i reached the last page of a book? to vary the name of the panel i guess i would use the 'titleabbrev' of each book which is allways one word and differs between books. regards daniel s. haischt -- > -Ursprung

RE: DOCBOOK: On the size of DocBook...

2002-09-05 Thread Peter Brooks
Just my 2c here - spit on it and throw it in the gutter as you see fit: Taking Visio as an example of an approach that would work well for me, when creating a new document the user doesn't get presented with a window containing all the symbols available. Instead, they pull up the relevant window

DOCBOOK: Re: AW: [QUESTION] page numbers in sets/books

2002-09-05 Thread Norman Walsh
/ "Daniel S. Haischt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: | to diplay page / pages, i used the following lines in | my custom stylesheet. | | [ / ] | | to make it clear, now every book will be numbered | beginning with one as i wanted it to be. but now | the counting of pages does not work any l

Re: DOCBOOK: On the size of DocBook...

2002-09-05 Thread Dave Pawson
At 15:00 05/09/2002, Paul Grosso wrote: >Again, just what are we trying to accomplish? Only point 2 will make >a dent on the effort to produce tools and maintain the application. > >And I don't see that any of the points make a dent on the end user >experience. > >If users are saying "when I g

Re: DOCBOOK: On the size of DocBook...

2002-09-05 Thread Dave Pawson
At 14:39 05/09/2002, Norman Walsh wrote: >Certainly one of the complaints that new users make about DocBook is that >it's "too big". An alternate view is that it's viewed as a huge list? If it were chunked for 'viewing' into (random guesses) sw documentor book author ... Such that the

DOCBOOK: AW: [QUESTION] page numbers in sets/books

2002-09-05 Thread Daniel S. Haischt
hello, no i am having another problem. i included a page footer on every page that looks like this. left|center| right - organization| |page / pages now the page / pages part wont be printed in a

DOCBOOK: [QUESTION] page numbers in sets/books

2002-09-05 Thread Daniel S. Haischt
hello, i am having a set that includes several books. unfortunatly page numbers will be continued all over the several books. i want the page numbers to begin at their starting point (say for ex. with number 1) at the begining of each book. how could this be accomplished? With best regards /

Re: DOCBOOK: On the size of DocBook...

2002-09-05 Thread Paul Grosso
At 09:39 2002 09 05 -0400, Norman Walsh wrote: >The recent thread about DocBook and LaTeX raised the issue of the size >of DocBook (measured as the number of elements). (It's not the first >thread to raise the issue, just the most recent.) > >Certainly one of the complaints that new users make abo

DOCBOOK: On the size of DocBook...

2002-09-05 Thread Norman Walsh
The recent thread about DocBook and LaTeX raised the issue of the size of DocBook (measured as the number of elements). (It's not the first thread to raise the issue, just the most recent.) Certainly one of the complaints that new users make about DocBook is that it's "too big". At the "paragraph

DOCBOOK: Re: docbook vs latex

2002-09-05 Thread Norman Walsh
/ Doug du Boulay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: | >On Thursday 05 September 2002 16:30, Matt G. wrote: | Back in January in response to one of your queries | http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/docbook/200201/msg00010.html | Norm actually suggested that there might be | a separation of Do

Need switch to control xref linkend attr type (Re: DOCBOOK: notes androles)

2002-09-05 Thread Matt G.
>From: "G.L. Grobe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: DOCBOOK: notes and roles >Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2002 01:55:12 -0500 > >What tag can be used to make something a future reference, or to let >the reader know that these features are to be included in a future >release? Yo Grobe!

Re: DOCBOOK: docbook vs latex

2002-09-05 Thread Matt G.
>From: Doug du Boulay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: DOCBOOK: docbook vs latex >Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2002 18:58:50 +0900 > >Sorry. I dont think I do see that point. It seems to me that >mathematics is more fundamental and common to all of >historianism(?), medicine, economi

AW: DOCBOOK: [PROBLEM] docbook does not print odd pages

2002-09-05 Thread Daniel S. Haischt
hello, so you mean that this is some kinda copy protection of xep? if so, i did not was aware of that ;-) just thought the only copy protection is that dump 'generated by' at each page. btw - i am getting a academic version of xep soon, so i guess i have to pay 0.0 bucks >:-) regards daniel s

Re: DOCBOOK: [PROBLEM] docbook does not print odd pages

2002-09-05 Thread Jens Stavnstrup
No problem, just pay BIG bucks. You are currently using an evaluation version of XEP. Regards Jens On Thu, 5 Sep 2002, Daniel S. Haischt wrote: > hello, > > i am having that docbook does not print chapters on odd pages. > > i am using ... > > - the docbook-xsl (v1.54.1) stylesheets > -

DOCBOOK: [PROBLEM] docbook does not print odd pages

2002-09-05 Thread Daniel S. Haischt
hello, i am having that docbook does not print chapters on odd pages. i am using ... - the docbook-xsl (v1.54.1) stylesheets - xalan v2_4_D1 to generate the fo tree - xep v2.77 to generate the pdf document i am using a set that includes seven books. the very first book includes just a prefa

Re: DOCBOOK: docbook vs latex

2002-09-05 Thread Doug du Boulay
On Tuesday 03 September 2002 20:12, Michael Smith wrote: > It really does seem like math markup might be a unique case. > > For one thing, discussions related to mathematics markup/rendering turn > up pretty regularly on the docbook and docbook-apps list. But I can't > remember discussions about m

Re: DOCBOOK: docbook vs latex

2002-09-05 Thread Doug du Boulay
On Thursday 05 September 2002 16:30, Matt G. wrote: > From: Doug du Boulay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: DOCBOOK: docbook vs latex > >Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2002 18:58:50 +0900 > > > >Sorry. I dont think I do see that point. It seems to me that > >mathematics is more f