DOCBOOK-APPS: DSSSL to get section and chapter title in header

2001-08-24 Thread Dave Brooks, BCS Systems
Hi, I'm looking for ways to generate a header using the DSSSL style sheets (openjade/pdfjadetex), that is like: PageNo ChapterTitle | SectionTitle Page No --|- | R H Page | L H page | ie. with page number, chapter and section titles on left

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: preface page numbering

2001-08-24 Thread camille
Hi, Great! After applying both patches twosidestartonright.patch.bz2 features.patch.bz2 I get really neat output. For those interested, I put the following packages in Mandrake Cooker: jadetex-3.11-1mdk openjade-1.3-15mdk docbook-style-dsssl-1.72-1mdk Thanks Ian, Camille. Note:

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: DSSSL to get section and chapter title in header

2001-08-24 Thread Dave Brooks, BCS Systems
I've answered my first question - (element-title-string (current-node)) and (element-title-string (parent (current-node))) when producing sect1 headers do the job nicely. Now to sort out the rules underneath... Some questions: 1) How do you refer to both the chapter and section (sect1) title

RE: DOCBOOK-APPS: Best tool for DocBook

2001-08-24 Thread Peter Ring
A pointer to an introduction to emacs/psgml and some psgml tips that you might find useful: The Emacs/PSGML chapter from SGML CD: Free SGML Software and How to Use It, Bob DuCharme: http://www.snee.com/bob/sgmlfree/emcspsgm.zip Various PSGML Tricks:

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: DOCBOOK: Minutes: DocBook Technical CommitteeMeeting: 21 Aug 2001

2001-08-24 Thread Daniel Veillard
On Fri, Aug 24, 2001 at 10:20:35AM +0200, Jirka Kosek wrote: Daniel Veillard wrote: Hum, assuming DocBook 5.0 is XML only, did you evaluate XLink ? I assume you at least looked at it, and if yes do you have an archive of pros/cons available ? Using XLink would mean to use XML

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: DSSSL to get section and chapter title in header

2001-08-24 Thread Juan R. Migoya
You can use a line-field AFTER each item, and force its lenght as the width paper. Then the whole rule INSIDE this line-field will wrap to the next line and all the three will get mixed as one. HTH. Juan R. Migoya SPAIN Dave Brooks, BCS Systems wrote: I've answered my first question -

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: DOCBOOK: Minutes: DocBook Technical CommitteeMeeting: 21 Aug 2001

2001-08-24 Thread Jirka Kosek
Daniel Veillard wrote: I don't fully understand the problem from an editor point of view, they just have names with ':' in them, they should not have to worry about this, those are of course perfectly acceptable XML Names per the XML spec. Do you mean that XMetaL, Epic and Emacs+PSGML

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: DSSSL to get section and chapter title in header

2001-08-24 Thread Dave Brooks, BCS Systems
Thanks Juan. I put: (make line-field field-width: %page-width% inhibit-line-breaks?: #t (empty-sosofo) ) after each item and it makes no difference. Putting rules on each of the headers (outer, center, inner) does do the job except that the rule is too high up. I can tweak this via

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: DOCBOOK: Minutes: DocBook Technical CommitteeMeeting: 21 Aug 2001

2001-08-24 Thread Daniel Veillard
On Fri, Aug 24, 2001 at 12:52:55PM +0200, Jirka Kosek wrote: Daniel Veillard wrote: I don't fully understand the problem from an editor point of view, they just have names with ':' in them, they should not have to worry about this, those are of course perfectly acceptable XML Names per

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: DOCBOOK: Minutes: DocBook TechnicalCommitteeMeeting: 21 Aug 2001

2001-08-24 Thread Jirka Kosek
Daniel Veillard wrote: I think that not reusing other specifications under the argument that in that case you want to be able to map the associated namespace prefix to any values would be a really hard position to defend. I hope that's not what you are suggesting. But I understand that the

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: DOCBOOK: Minutes: DocBook TechnicalCommitteeMeeting: 21 Aug 2001

2001-08-24 Thread Daniel Veillard
On Fri, Aug 24, 2001 at 01:35:34PM +0200, Jirka Kosek wrote: There are too many possibilites. As far as merging of DTDs cann't be automated, going DTDs way to support other markup schemes than DocBook in DocBook documents is not long term solution (but may be used if you need MathML or SVG in

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: best tool for docbook?

2001-08-24 Thread Rafael 'Dido' Sevilla
On Thu, Aug 23, 2001 at 05:21:34PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But they need at least approximation of visual appearance during editing. They aren't able edit text without some level of WYSIWYG. If they have this problem, then they have not completely internalized the philosophy behind

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: best tool for docbook?

2001-08-24 Thread Norman Walsh
/ Dennis Grace [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: | I actually prefer writing and editing in markup, but emacs--even with | psgmlx and the Windows settings--is a drag. I agree that emacs+psgml (or | psgmlx) offers a solution, especially for those who can't or don't want to | work in Windows, but

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: DOCBOOK: Minutes: DocBook TechnicalCommitteeMeeting: 21 Aug 2001

2001-08-24 Thread Jirka Kosek
Daniel Veillard wrote: On Fri, Aug 24, 2001 at 01:35:34PM +0200, Jirka Kosek wrote: There are too many possibilites. As far as merging of DTDs cann't be automated, going DTDs way to support other markup schemes than DocBook in DocBook documents is not long term solution (but may be used

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Cover Art

2001-08-24 Thread Norman Walsh
/ Bob Stayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: | Looking at the titlepage templates in XSL 1.42, it | appears there is no template for mediaobject or graphic. | So you aren't doing anything wrong, it just doesn't | work yet. See http://nwalsh.com/docs/articles/dbdesign/ Almost everyone wants

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Best tool for DocBook

2001-08-24 Thread Norman Walsh
/ Dennis Grace [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: | I apologize if I've insulted anyone's preferred software tool set. Gosh, I hope not. I certainly wasn't insulted. And I apologize if my reply might have lead you to think I was. Be seeing you,

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Catalog dor DocBook and URI for the XSL stylesheets

2001-08-24 Thread Norman Walsh
/ Daniel Veillard [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: | I'm integrating XML Catalog into libxml and libxslt, and I would Woo hoo! Thanks, Daniel! | So basically I'm wondering: |- if there is a default XML Catalog template for DocBook XML Dtds | (preferably based on 4.1.2) |- if

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: DOCBOOK: Minutes: DocBook Technical CommitteeMeeting: 21 Aug 2001

2001-08-24 Thread Norman Walsh
/ Daniel Veillard [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: | Yes, you can use DtD for this if you accept to have a predefined | prefix for the namespace. Using xlink:href in the DTD is IMHO perfectly | acceptable, and will work with those tools. Actually, with proper parameterization, you can have

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: DOCBOOK: Minutes: DocBook TechnicalCommitteeMeeting: 21 Aug 2001

2001-08-24 Thread Norman Walsh
/ Jirka Kosek [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: | But if we stay with DTDs how many variants we should produce? When the TC adopts a linking proposal, we will have DocBook+Linking. Then MathML, SVG, etc. will just be bolt-on modules. It'll all work more-or-less OK. (The caveat being mixed

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: DOCBOOK: Minutes: DocBookTechnicalCommitteeMeeting: 21 Aug 2001

2001-08-24 Thread Jirka Kosek
Norman Walsh wrote: / Jirka Kosek [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: | But if we stay with DTDs how many variants we should produce? When the TC adopts a linking proposal, we will have DocBook+Linking. Then MathML, SVG, etc. will just be bolt-on modules. It'll all work more-or-less OK.

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: DOCBOOK: Minutes: DocBookTechnicalCommitteeMeeting: 21 Aug 2001

2001-08-24 Thread Norman Walsh
/ Jirka Kosek [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: | OK. Sounds reasonably. But if I would want use both MathML and SVG with | DocBook, I will need to combine these two customizations manually and | create new one. Right? Yes, but it's as simple as turning on two PEs.

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Catalog dor DocBook and URI for the XSL stylesheets

2001-08-24 Thread Daniel Veillard
On Fri, Aug 24, 2001 at 09:12:15AM -0400, Norman Walsh wrote: / Daniel Veillard [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: | I'm integrating XML Catalog into libxml and libxslt, and I would Woo hoo! Thanks, Daniel! | So basically I'm wondering: |- if there is a default XML Catalog

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Cover Art

2001-08-24 Thread Bob Stayton
From: Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] / Bob Stayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: | Looking at the titlepage templates in XSL 1.42, it | appears there is no template for mediaobject or graphic. | So you aren't doing anything wrong, it just doesn't | work yet. See

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: DOCBOOK: Minutes: DocBook Technical CommitteeMeeting: 21 Aug 2001

2001-08-24 Thread Dave Pawson
At 05:54 24/08/2001 -0400, Daniel Veillard wrote: I don't fully understand the problem from an editor point of view, they just have names with ':' in them, they should not have to worry about this, those are of course perfectly acceptable XML Names per the XML spec. Do you mean that XMetaL,

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Catalog dor DocBook and URI for the XSL stylesheets

2001-08-24 Thread Dave Pawson
At 09:12 24/08/2001 -0400, Norman Walsh wrote: The idea of a default catalog is sort of odd to me. The point of a catalog is to map from public/system identifiers and URIs to local copies of the resources. If there was a standard local place we could have a standard catalog. Uh, but we also

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Catalog dor DocBook and URI for the XSL stylesheets

2001-08-24 Thread Kevin Conder
On Fri, 24 Aug 2001, Norman Walsh wrote: They do now, actually, http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/{$VERSION}/... Please consider using another site. Sourceforge uses a strange port-redirection scheme that doesn't work well with corporate firewalls. For example, I'm only

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Catalog dor DocBook and URI for the XSL stylesheets

2001-08-24 Thread Daniel Veillard
On Fri, Aug 24, 2001 at 06:16:49PM +0100, Dave Pawson wrote: How about a 'relative' local place? It's already the case :-). XML Catalog points to entities using URI-References, moreover it does support xml:base. http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/entity/spec-2001-08-06.html#s.terminology

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Catalog dor DocBook and URI for the XSL stylesheets

2001-08-24 Thread Dave Pawson
At 11:26 24/08/2001 -0500, you wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2001, Norman Walsh wrote: They do now, actually, http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/{$VERSION}/... Since they are 'yours' Norm, why not have an nwalsh.com url? Regards DaveP

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Catalog dor DocBook and URI for the XSL stylesheets

2001-08-24 Thread Norman Walsh
/ Dave Pawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: | At 11:26 24/08/2001 -0500, you wrote: | On Fri, 24 Aug 2001, Norman Walsh wrote: | | They do now, actually, | | http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/{$VERSION}/... | | Since they are 'yours' Norm, why not have an nwalsh.com url?

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: DOCBOOK: Minutes: DocBook Technical CommitteeMeeting: 21 Aug 2001

2001-08-24 Thread Norman Walsh
/ Togan Muftuoglu [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: | Excuse me but I thought this whole thread belongs to DOCBOOK list, as it | started with DOCBOOK Minutes send by Norm , not to DOCBOOK-APPS. | | Sorry if I misunderstand the lists That's a good point, I'm not sure how it wandered over

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Catalog dor DocBook and URI for the XSL stylesheets

2001-08-24 Thread Dave Pawson
At 14:57 24/08/2001 -0400, Norman Walsh wrote: / Dave Pawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: | Since they are 'yours' Norm, why not have an nwalsh.com url? Because they're ours now. Adam Di Carlo, Jirka Kosek, Jorge Godoy, Leonard Muellner, Mark Johnson, Michael Smith, Nik Clayton, and

DOCBOOK-APPS: Xalan Big Files Chunking...

2001-08-24 Thread Michael Cortez
Okay, I searched the archives and found stuff about Xalan and Chunking, but nothing that looked like this. So... I'm using: * xalan-j_2_2_D9 * docbook-xsl-1.42 * docbkx412 I have some huge XML files that I'm processing (3mb) and discovered that Xalan tends to blow up if I process the entire

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Trying to find a DocBook solution that simply works

2001-08-24 Thread M. Wroth
At 04:17 PM 8/22/01 -0700, Tom Epperly wrote: I am part of a project where were are able to start writing perhaps 200 pages of documentation. We were interested in using DocBook because it seemed like an up and coming standard that could deliver the document in several formats. We were

DOCBOOK-APPS: DSSSL Tutorials

2001-08-24 Thread Dave Brooks, BCS Systems
Hi, I've managed to find a couple of DSSSL tutorials, whose links should be added to the FAQ. One is by Daniel Germán at http://csgrs6k1.uwaterloo.ca/~dmg/dsssl/tutorial/tutorial.html and the other is by Paul Prescod, a copy of which is at