Re: [docbook-apps] Show off what you've done with Docbook

2015-09-13 Thread Thomas Schraitle
On Sun, 13 Sep 2015 21:25:45 -0600 (MDT) Warren Block wrote: > [...] > Examples, even trivial ones, are hugely useful. Just having two or > three would be useful for reference when implementing a custom look. > Being able to use an existing style and override some elements like > annotation i

RE: [docbook-apps] Show off what you've done with Docbook

2015-09-13 Thread Warren Block
On Sun, 13 Sep 2015, Jan Tosovsky wrote: On 2015-09-13 Warren Block wrote: On Sun, 13 Sep 2015, Gerard Nicol wrote: Does anybody sell a commercial Docbook customization layer? I don't know of any, but would be interested. Maybe there is a place with downloadable DocBook "themes", or maybe

RE: [docbook-apps] Show off what you've done with Docbook

2015-09-13 Thread Jan Tosovsky
On 2015-09-13 Warren Block wrote: > On Sun, 13 Sep 2015, Gerard Nicol wrote: > > > Does anybody sell a commercial Docbook customization layer? > > I don't know of any, but would be interested. Maybe there is a place > with downloadable DocBook "themes", or maybe it is time for that. There are

Re: [docbook-apps] Show off what you've done with Docbook

2015-09-13 Thread maxwell
On 9/13/2015 2:45 PM, Warren Block wrote: The FreeBSD DocBook toolchain almost supports dblatex, but the older versions did not have all the features we needed for PDFs. Table of contents and some other things, as I recall. We now have a port of the latest version of dblatex, but it dies myster

Re: [docbook-apps] Show off what you've done with Docbook

2015-09-13 Thread Warren Block
On Sun, 13 Sep 2015, maxwell wrote: On 9/13/2015 12:19 PM, Warren Block wrote: On Sun, 13 Sep 2015, Gerard Nicol wrote: 2. The complexity of customizing the default look of the documents, which look OK, but don't look as good as they would need to be to be put in front of a client. That is d

RE: [docbook-apps] Show off what you've done with Docbook

2015-09-13 Thread Gerard Nicol
Katie, I started my IT career working with IBM mainframes. Mainframers live in a parallel upside down universe where simplicity is complexity and the more you need to know about something the more worthy it is of your admiration. When I first started selling software I learned the ha

Re: [docbook-apps] Show off what you've done with Docbook

2015-09-13 Thread maxwell
On 9/13/2015 12:19 PM, Warren Block wrote: On Sun, 13 Sep 2015, Gerard Nicol wrote: 2. The complexity of customizing the default look of the documents, which look OK, but don't look as good as they would need to be to be put in front of a client. That is difficult. Based on my unscientific sa

Re: [docbook-apps] Show off what you've done with Docbook

2015-09-13 Thread Warren Block
On Sun, 13 Sep 2015, Katie Welles wrote: Gerard's points 1 and 2 are quite valid. Setting up my DocBook toolchain was quite the graduate course in frustration. I wrote up notes about how I set it up here:  http://www.millermattson.com/blog/docbook-toolchain/, mostly so I could do it again year

RE: [docbook-apps] Show off what you've done with Docbook

2015-09-13 Thread Warren Block
On Sun, 13 Sep 2015, Gerard Nicol wrote: Tom, I've been giving this some thought, and what had become evident to me is that I have no problem at all with the Docbook language. After all, you can either learn to code it by hand, or use an editor like Oxygen. Either way, you do need to know th

Re: [docbook-apps] Show off what you've done with Docbook

2015-09-13 Thread Katie Welles
Gerard's points 1 and 2 are quite valid. Setting up my DocBook toolchain was quite the graduate course in frustration. I wrote up notes about how I set it up here: http://www.millermattson.com/blog/docbook-toolchain/ , mostly so I could do i

Re: [docbook-apps] Show off what you've done with Docbook

2015-09-13 Thread Thomas Schraitle
Hi Gerad, Am Sonntag, 13. September 2015, 07:36:12 schrieben Sie: > > After all, you can either learn to code it by hand, or use an editor like > Oxygen. Either way, you do need to know the possibilities of the language, > to know the best way to mark-up your document, but that's not really a > p

RE: [docbook-apps] Show off what you've done with Docbook

2015-09-13 Thread Gerard Nicol
Tom, I've been giving this some thought, and what had become evident to me is that I have no problem at all with the Docbook language. After all, you can either learn to code it by hand, or use an editor like Oxygen. Either way, you do need to know the possibilities of the language, to know th

Re: [docbook-apps] Show off what you've done with Docbook

2015-09-13 Thread Thomas Schraitle
Hi Gerhard, Am Samstag, 12. September 2015, 11:35:11 schrieb Gerard Nicol: > I'm surprised nobody has put together a Linux VM image with Git and Docbook > etc. Shouldn't be too difficult. ;) > I'd happily pay a few thousand a year for a subscription to a hosted or > packaged Docbook environment

Re: [docbook-apps] Show off what you've done with Docbook

2015-09-13 Thread Thomas Schraitle
Hi, Am Freitag, 11. September 2015, 23:45:25 schrieb Warren Block: > [...] > > For me, DocBook is powerful but a pain to write. AsciiDoc is simple to > write, but does not have the semantic markup power of DocBook. That is the essential part. I hear from all sites that DocBook is a bit overwhe