Re: [docbook-apps] Graphs in docbook?

2009-07-22 Thread DeanNelson
Dave, Sal Mangano has a section on this in his O'Reilly book XSLT Cookbook. Its in the XML to SVG section. His style is take an existing SVG file and make it have variable data. He also take it further and makes generic components. So concepts like what he has done make work here. Regards,

Re: [docbook-apps] Graphs in docbook?

2009-07-22 Thread Christopher R. Maden
Seems to me that this is part of the point of using namespaces. There is no reason why DocBook per se has to support this; if there is a well-defined charting XML namespace, a custom stylesheet can easily import both the DocBook stylesheets and a stylesheet for handling charting. ~Chris --

Re: [docbook-apps] Graphs in docbook?

2009-07-22 Thread Jirka Kosek
DeanNelson wrote: I wonder if this could be translated into SVG http://code.google.com/p/graph2svg/ -- -- Jirka Kosek e-mail: ji...@kosek.cz http://xmlguru.cz

Re: [docbook-apps] Graphs in docbook?

2009-07-22 Thread Dave Pawson
On 07/22/2009 07:10 AM, Christopher R. Maden wrote: Seems to me that this is part of the point of using namespaces. There is no reason why DocBook per se has to support this; if there is a well-defined charting XML namespace, a custom stylesheet can easily import both the DocBook stylesheets

Re: [docbook-apps] Graphs in docbook?

2009-07-22 Thread Dave Pawson
On 07/22/2009 07:55 AM, Jirka Kosek wrote: DeanNelson wrote: I wonder if this could be translated into SVG http://code.google.com/p/graph2svg/ Drat, beat me to it again! grin/ Jiri isn't it Jirka? I'm just playing with it. Looks quite sophisticated! Lots of examples, various

Re: [docbook-apps] Graphs in docbook?

2009-07-22 Thread Jirka Kosek
Dave Pawson wrote: grin/ Jiri isn't it Jirka? Yes. Jiří is official form, but I tend to use more informal Jirka which doesn't use those funny characters. It was problem to transmit those characters 15 years ego. Lots of examples, various types of graphs Just that we need Jirka and

Re: [docbook-apps] Graphs in docbook?

2009-07-22 Thread Dave Pawson
?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8? !DOCTYPE xygr SYSTEM xygr.dtd xygr xmlns=http://graph2svg.googlecode.com; titleFrequency, By date/title curve color=yellow point x=5 y=11 color=black pointType=point/ point x=6 y=14 color=black pointType=point/

Re: [docbook-apps] Graphs in docbook?

2009-07-22 Thread Jirka Kosek
Dave Pawson wrote: Jirka, how does this idea fit with 'extending' docbook, vs incorporation via a namespace vs incorporating into docbook processing? There are many possibilities, depends on your usage scenario, for example. 1) Incorporate graph2svg markup directly into DocBook 2) Keep

Re: [docbook-apps] Graphs in docbook?

2009-07-22 Thread Dave Pawson
On 07/22/2009 09:14 AM, Jirka Kosek wrote: Dave Pawson wrote: Jirka, how does this idea fit with 'extending' docbook, vs incorporation via a namespace vs incorporating into docbook processing? There are many possibilities, depends on your usage scenario, for example. 1) Incorporate

Re: [docbook-apps] Graphs in docbook?

2009-07-22 Thread Jirka Kosek
Dave Pawson wrote: btw Jirka, the namespace isn't declared in the DTD, on the root element? That's bug. graph2svg was added into namespace in the last stage and Jakub probably forgot to update DTDs. But you don't need to reference DTDs from your graph2svg files. --

Re: [docbook-apps] Graphs in docbook?

2009-07-22 Thread Stefan Seefeld
On 07/22/2009 04:22 AM, Dave Pawson wrote: In the long term, I like Chris's idea. Consider it 'another namespace' content and process it as ... an extension? But that will have to wait until the XSLT 2.0 docbook stylesheets I guess. Not having looked closely at it, I wonder if an alternative

Re: [docbook-apps] Graphs in docbook?

2009-07-22 Thread Dave Pawson
And using a macrodef with ant, it's easy to generate n svg files. !-- = -- !-- Macro definition to run xslt 2, n times-- !-- == -- macrodef name=call-xslt2 backtrace=true attribute

[docbook-apps] Graphs in docbook?

2009-07-21 Thread Dave Pawson
Am I the only one that would like an easier way of generating simple graphs (perhaps line and bar chart) in docbook? It seems such a pain to go out to an SVG tool and draw it when XML XSLT could do it for us from a (slightly modded) table? Anyone else? regards -- Dave Pawson XSLT XSL-FO FAQ.

Re: [docbook-apps] Graphs in docbook?

2009-07-21 Thread DeanNelson
Yes, Dave, I have had the same thoughts. I wonder if there is an XML based graph and chart thingy that could handle something like graph type=line title Profits /title data x30/x x40/x x50/x y10/y y20/y y30/y /data /graph I wonder if this could be translated into SVG Dean Nelson

Re: [docbook-apps] Graphs in docbook?

2009-07-21 Thread Dave Pawson
On 07/22/2009 06:26 AM, DeanNelson wrote: Yes, Dave, I have had the same thoughts. I wonder if there is an XML based graph and chart thingy that could handle something like graph type=line title Profits /title data x30/x x40/x x50/x y10/y y20/y y30/y /data /graph I wonder if this could be