Now, I'm lost -:)
> From: "Juan R. Migoya" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Again: Apache FOP,Docbook: Features
> /Versions,"complete" Docbook distribution
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> Juan,
>> OK, now I am R
Tim,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Juan,
> > OK, now I am REALLY confused!
> >
> > First I thought that DSSSL was a dying, gasping on the
> > beach dead fish, kind of standard since it isn't well supported,
> > etc. And XML/XSLM was the "new and better way to go."
> >
> > Now you throw in T
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Juan,
> OK, now I am REALLY confused!
>
> First I thought that DSSSL was a dying, gasping on the
> beach dead fish, kind of standard since it isn't well supported,
> etc. And XML/XSLM was the "new and better way to go."
>
> Now you throw in TEX stuff!!! Wowsers, is th
At 19:36 15/01/2002 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Juan,
>OK, now I am REALLY confused!
Read Markus post on this list.
If you want straightforward html and print output
from docbook xml,
select fop and docbook stuff.
Follow his instructions carefully and it will work. Honest.
HTH DaveP
Juan,
OK, now I am REALLY confused!
First I thought that DSSSL was a dying, gasping on the
beach dead fish, kind of standard since it isn't well supported,
etc. And XML/XSLM was the "new and better way to go."
Now you throw in TEX stuff!!! Wowsers, is there any
other path you could recommend t
On Tue, 2002-01-15 at 16:07, Alexander Schatten wrote:
>
> well, this is *SGML* for NT.
>
> I am not interested (as most) in SGML, as I am using XML heavily in
> *many* projects; so to say it again: I am (and many other are) intested
> in an XML/XSL to HTML/PDF solution.
>
Well, for practica
At 17:07 15/01/2002 +0100, Alexander Schatten wrote:
>Kevin Conder wrote:
>
>> Did you know there are several installation tutorials out there?
>
>
>> For Windows, there's this page:
>> http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/hoenicka_markus/ntsgml.html
>
>well, this is *S
At 10:15 15/01/2002 -0500, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
>Dave Pawson writes:
>
> > That's why I liked the idea of 'skipping' a few versions. Say one
> > update per year, at Norm's choosing?
>
>Surely you're kidding?
>
>How are you going to explain to the crowd, "you still have to wait 10
>months for th
At 23:43 14/01/2002 -0800, Carlos Araya wrote:
> > Have you read Markus H's stuff. Its always worked for me?
>No, what's the URL?
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/hoenicka_markus/ntsgml.html
Well worth some time.
Regards DaveP
A tool chain which works is XML to TEX trough Jade and DSSL
and TEX to PDF trough PDFTEX with PDFJADETEX.
For HTML, Jade with DSSL also works well.
There are other options, but those are what I can talk about because
I use them.
Yes, Yes, I KNOW it doesn't work as well as we would like, but it
p
Kevin Conder wrote:
> Did you know there are several installation tutorials out there?
> For Windows, there's this page:
> http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/hoenicka_markus/ntsgml.html
>
well, this is *SGML* for NT.
I am not interested (as most) in SGML, as I am usin
Dave Pawson writes:
> > I also believe that the startup is
> >90% of the work... Picking up the correct version of every single thing
> >(docbook, stylesheets and toolchain processing tools) is where we loose a
> >lot of people
>
> That's why I liked the idea of 'skipping' a few versions. Say on
On Mon, 14 Jan 2002, Alexander Schatten wrote:
> again my suggestion: If anyone of the experts would help me solving my
> problems as described in the previous mail, I would try to put together
> in installation and setup tutorial. what else could I do?
Did you know there are several i
On 01/14/02 23:32, "Dave Pawson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 23:26 14/01/2002 -0800, Carlos Araya wrote:
>> Do you think it's possible for us to agree on using a certain set of tools
>> then? Is there such a one-step-wonder solution for creating documents with
>> Docbook? Is there a tool that
At 23:26 14/01/2002 -0800, Carlos Araya wrote:
>Do you think it's possible for us to agree on using a certain set of tools
>then? Is there such a one-step-wonder solution for creating documents with
>Docbook? Is there a tool that converts docbook to other formats without
>using xsl or dsssl?
yes
On 01/14/02 23:05, "Dave Pawson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 21:11 14/01/2002 +0100, Alexander Schatten wrote:
>
>
>> the meaning is this: off course: provide current updates off all
>> subprojects for the specialists. but PLEASE provide ONE solution, that
>> does is all for the "normal" us
At 21:11 14/01/2002 +0100, Alexander Schatten wrote:
>the meaning is this: off course: provide current updates off all
>subprojects for the specialists. but PLEASE provide ONE solution, that
>does is all for the "normal" user. this one must not be updated that often
>and also needs not to sup
Did you have a look at:
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/hoenicka_markus/ntsgml.html
This little document guides you through the setup of an SGML and XML
editing and processing system. DocBook (both SGML and XML) is used as
the main DTD example. The instructions include Emacs, PSGML,
(Op
1/14/02 10:02:14 AM, Alexander Schatten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I am rather stubborn and want to get the thing running; but as I
>mentioned before: 98 to 99% of all others take a look at for example
>docbook; play around for an hour, dont get the stuff running, and (this
>is the main poin
Julien Letessier wrote:
> le 14/01/02 17:02, Alexander Schatten écrivit:
>
>
>>the same here and in other similar projects: what I feel angry about is,
>>that many of these projects suffer on two things:
>>
>>-- setup and installation
>>-- documentation
>>
> (snip)
>
> It's in the works... I'v
Hi all,
Hmm, well, there seems to be a (screaming) demand for basic DocBook (XML)
processing docs. The fact is I've written a DocBook-app howto, er...
Tutorial... Whatever, originaly with OS X in mind, but finally it's not at
all OS X specific.
It describes a classic DB/XML processing chain usin
>>
>>where documentation is really a hard thing, this is really a shame,
>>considering how much effort and time is e.g. put into the docbook
>>stylesheets... and an expert would need, lets say 20 minutes to explain
>>how to setup and install all this stuff together.
>>
> As a trainer I can tell yo
On 01/14/02 8:02, "Alexander Schatten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> well, I do understand this. however: unfortunately it seems to me the
> same like in other (open source) projects: microsoft was once blamed for
> their setup program: only "dummies" would use this, bla bla. now even
> linux soft
Bob Stayton wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 13, 2002 at 08:57:44PM +0100, Alexander Schatten wrote:
>
>>This complete "framework" is SO complex to setup, I have never seen
>>something like this before, especially when there is no documentation
>>that explains the necessary steps in one document. currentl
On Sun, Jan 13, 2002 at 08:57:44PM +0100, Alexander Schatten wrote:
> This complete "framework" is SO complex to setup, I have never seen
> something like this before, especially when there is no documentation
> that explains the necessary steps in one document. currently I feel like
> playing
le 13/01/02 21:00, Steffen Maier écrivit:
> Uhm, sorry, haven't tried FOP myself yet. Maybe one of the experts out
> there can comment on this? I just wonder why there are class files, isn't
> FOP packaged as a jar file that even specifies its main-class in its
> manifest, so one doesn't have to
This might help:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/docbook-apps/200111/msg00182.html
DaveP, should that one be a faq?
David
> -Original Message-
> From: Alexander Schatten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Subject: Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Again: Apache FOP, Docbook: Features /
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This complete "framework" is SO complex to setup, I have never seen
something like this before, especially when there is no documentation
that explains the necessary steps in one document. currently I feel like
playing a text-adventure, getting different types of hints from
different persons.
Hello Tim,
On Sun, 13 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Please clarify the tools...
> 1/13/02 9:56:00 AM, Alexander Schatten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> my.fo --> my.fop using fo/fo-patch-for-fop.xsl (included w/1.48)
>
> What tool do I use for this?
E.g. xsltproc or any other xslt engi
Please clarify the tools...
1/13/02 9:56:00 AM, Alexander Schatten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> my.xml --> my.fo using fo/docbook.xsl
I can do this using xsltproc.
>> my.fo --> my.fop using fo/fo-patch-for-fop.xsl (included w/1.48)
What tool do I use for this?
>> my.fop --> my.pdf us
Julien Letessier wrote:
> He Ho.
> Already debated on the docbook-apps list.
> I don't blame you -- I asked too.
some things were discussed, unfortunately nothing (I could find) that
solved the relevant problems.
>
> The problem is that Fop is not XSL-1.0 conformant. Norman wrote a little
>
Again: I did some extensive testing of different xsl stylesheet
versions, my conclusions considering PDF production are (html works
fine, btw):
always using apache fop 0.20.2:
docbook-xsl-1.47-experimental and docbook-xsl-1.48
does not work at all: "[java] [ERROR]: property 'master-reference'
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