Re: [DOTNET] Hide part of code from Developers

2002-05-14 Thread Farhan
Thanks all for your ideas. i am still confused but saving Key on remote server will help so i will try that and get back to you guys. You can read messages from the DOTNET archive, unsubscribe from DOTNET, or subscribe to other DevelopMentor lists at http://discuss.develop.com.

Re: [DOTNET] Hide part of code from Developers

2002-05-14 Thread Peter Meinl
See MS Press Book "Writing Secure Code" ISBN: 0735615888 under "Storing Secrets" for a discussion of this problem. You can read messages from the DOTNET archive, unsubscribe from DOTNET, or subscribe to other DevelopMentor lists at http://discuss.develop.com.

Re: [DOTNET] Hide part of code from Developers

2002-05-13 Thread Kirk Jackson
connects to the map-point service using the key? That way the key never needs to be distributed to clients. Kirk -Original Message- From: Dan Souk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 14 May 2002 4:52 a.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [DOTNET] Hide part of code from Developers

Re: [DOTNET] Hide part of code from Developers

2002-05-13 Thread Graeme Foster
You could have all MapPoint calls proxied by your own server, which could safely hold the MapPoint stuff. You've got to handle authentication between the client and your own server, but at least you're not handing your MapPoint autentication details out to everybody. So are we saying that MapPoin

Re: [DOTNET] Hide part of code from Developers

2002-05-13 Thread Peter Vertes
All that needs to be hijacked is the return value (but at least the original key is still unknown). -Pete -Original Message- From: dotnet discussion [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brad Wilson Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 12:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [DOTNET] Hide part of

Re: [DOTNET] Hide part of code from Developers

2002-05-13 Thread Dan Souk
thing? -Original Message- From: dotnet discussion [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Peter Vertes Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 11:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [DOTNET] Hide part of code from Developers The original key doesn't get transmitted via the network nor does it get

Re: [DOTNET] Hide part of code from Developers

2002-05-13 Thread Brad Wilson
Peter Vertes wrote: > The original key doesn't get transmitted via the network nor does it get > hard coded. Two comments. First, "strSecretKey" is your key. How do you not call that hard-coded? Second, did you read the original post? Someone is trying to find a way to hide the key they need t

Re: [DOTNET] Hide part of code from Developers

2002-05-13 Thread Ovidiu Platon
ROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Peter Vertes Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 7:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [DOTNET] Hide part of code from Developers The original key doesn't get transmitted via the network nor does it get hard coded. Consider this: you have a remote machine that has a serv

Re: [DOTNET] Hide part of code from Developers

2002-05-13 Thread Peter Vertes
discussion [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brad Wilson Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 12:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [DOTNET] Hide part of code from Developers Peter Vertes wrote: > How about storing the key on a remote server ? When you need it you connect > to it get it. Or ex

Re: [DOTNET] Hide part of code from Developers

2002-05-13 Thread Peter Foreman
--- Peter Vertes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How about storing the key on a remote server ? When you need it you connect > to it get it. Or extending on this idea; you could store the key on a You could simply look for the code that gets it from the remote server and see what the return value

Re: [DOTNET] Hide part of code from Developers

2002-05-13 Thread Brad Wilson
Peter Vertes wrote: > How about storing the key on a remote server ? When you need it you connect > to it get it. Or extending on this idea; you could store the key on a > remote server, when you need to authenticate you call the authentication > code on the remote server side and have it spit

Re: [DOTNET] Hide part of code from Developers

2002-05-13 Thread Peter Vertes
t: Re: [DOTNET] Hide part of code from Developers I know that's the problem. I can put the key in registry and read it on runtime but that's not safe either. Any other ideas? You can read messages from the DOTNET archive, unsubscribe from DOTNET, or subscribe to other DevelopMento

Re: [DOTNET] Hide part of code from Developers

2002-05-13 Thread Brad Wilson
Brent E. Rector wrote: > There is no absolutely secure way of doing this. It all boils down to > how hard do you want to make them work to get the key. +1. Anything that the code can do automatically, a person can walk the code to discover it as well. Brad -- Read my web log at http://www.qual

Re: [DOTNET] Hide part of code from Developers

2002-05-13 Thread Brent E. Rector
Hide part of code from Developers Wouldn't obfuscating data be under the heading of cryptography? -Original Message- From: Brad Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 9:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [DOTNET] Hide part of code from Developers Kev

Re: [DOTNET] Hide part of code from Developers

2002-05-13 Thread Kevin Burton
Wouldn't obfuscating data be under the heading of cryptography? -Original Message- From: Brad Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 9:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [DOTNET] Hide part of code from Developers Kevin Hector wrote: > actually, i j

Re: [DOTNET] Hide part of code from Developers

2002-05-13 Thread Kevin Hector
>I've never seen an obfuscator that obfuscates data, only symbols and code. makes sense, although Preemptive say string encryption is coming in a later release of the 'Pro' edition. _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device:

Re: [DOTNET] Hide part of code from Developers

2002-05-13 Thread Kevin Hector
actually, i just read the user guide and can't find any reference to obfuscating internal data, but at least they have a 'community edition' which is a free, command-line only code obfuscator >have a look at the current frontpage of www.gotdotnet.com. they have a link >to "dotfuscator" from Pree

Re: [DOTNET] Hide part of code from Developers

2002-05-13 Thread Brad Wilson
Kevin Hector wrote: > actually, i just read the user guide and can't find any reference to > obfuscating internal data, but at least they have a 'community edition' > which is a free, command-line only code obfuscator I've never seen an obfuscator that obfuscates data, only symbols and code. Br

Re: [DOTNET] Hide part of code from Developers

2002-05-13 Thread Kevin Hector
have a look at the current frontpage of www.gotdotnet.com. they have a link to "dotfuscator" from Preemptive Solutions Inc., which may fit the bill kevin _ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmai

Re: [DOTNET] Hide part of code from Developers

2002-05-13 Thread Pierre Greborio
From: dotnet discussion [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Farhan Sh Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 2:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [DOTNET] Hide part of code from Developers I know that's the problem. I can put the key in registry and read it on runtime but that's not s

Re: [DOTNET] Hide part of code from Developers

2002-05-13 Thread Peter Foreman
> is there a way to protect .NET code from developers to see? I am developing > MapPoint .NET app and it has hard coded Key info in it and i don't want > developers to see that. What are some ways to get around this? This has been extensively discussed in the past. Search the archives for "obfu

Re: [DOTNET] Hide part of code from Developers

2002-05-13 Thread Bryan Batchelder
TECTED]] > Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 8:58 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [DOTNET] Hide part of code from Developers > > > I know that's the problem. I can put the key in registry and > read it on runtime but that's not safe either. Any other ideas? >

Re: [DOTNET] Hide part of code from Developers

2002-05-13 Thread Farhan Sh
I know that's the problem. I can put the key in registry and read it on runtime but that's not safe either. Any other ideas? You can read messages from the DOTNET archive, unsubscribe from DOTNET, or subscribe to other DevelopMentor lists at http://discuss.develop.com.

Re: [DOTNET] Hide part of code from Developers

2002-05-13 Thread Pierre Greborio
Message- From: dotnet discussion [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Farhan Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 2:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [DOTNET] Hide part of code from Developers Hi, is there a way to protect .NET code from developers to see? I am developing MapPoint .NET app and it

[DOTNET] Hide part of code from Developers

2002-05-13 Thread Farhan
Hi, is there a way to protect .NET code from developers to see? I am developing MapPoint .NET app and it has hard coded Key info in it and i don't want developers to see that. What are some ways to get around this? Thanks, Farhan You can read messages from the DOTNET archive, unsubscribe from D