Re: [Dovecot] importing outlook express messages to dovecot imap server

2010-06-25 Thread Patrick Nagel
Hi, On 2010-06-25 03:51 UTC Stan Hoeppner wrote: Angelo Chen put forth on 6/24/2010 10:25 PM: I think that's one option, but it's around 10G data for the last few years, and more than 100 folders under outlook express, do you think that will be fast enough by using Outlook Express copying

Re: [Dovecot] importing outlook express messages to dovecot imap server

2010-06-25 Thread Angelo Chen
Hi, Nice approach, but the it's Thunderbird, what I have is outlook Express. Angelo On Jun 25, 2010, at 2:02 PM, Patrick Nagel wrote: Hi, On 2010-06-25 03:51 UTC Stan Hoeppner wrote: Angelo Chen put forth on 6/24/2010 10:25 PM: I think that's one option, but it's around 10G data for the

Re: [Dovecot] dovecot evaluation on a 30 gb mailbox

2010-06-25 Thread Denny Schierz
Am Donnerstag, den 24.06.2010, 22:30 -0500 schrieb Stan Hoeppner: Does running imapproxy in this scenario yield any benefit, given there is no network traffic involved? it does. IMAPPRoxy caches for example all directories. If the user open a folder, then you have a new connection to the IMAP

Re: [Dovecot] importing outlook express messages to dovecot imap server

2010-06-25 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Patrick Nagel put forth on 6/25/2010 1:02 AM: Hi, On 2010-06-25 03:51 UTC Stan Hoeppner wrote: Angelo Chen put forth on 6/24/2010 10:25 PM: I think that's one option, but it's around 10G data for the last few years, and more than 100 folders under outlook express, do you think that will be

Re: [Dovecot] importing outlook express messages to dovecot imap server

2010-06-25 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Angelo Chen put forth on 6/25/2010 1:32 AM: Hi, Nice approach, but the it's Thunderbird, what I have is outlook Express. The process is the same. Outlook Express can do this also. Have you ever used OE with an IMAP connection? Do you need instructions on setting up an IMAP connection?

Re: [Dovecot] dovecot evaluation on a 30 gb mailbox

2010-06-25 Thread Steffen Kaiser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 25 Jun 2010, Denny Schierz wrote: it does. IMAPPRoxy caches for example all directories. If the user open a folder, then you have a new connection to the IMAP server, that can take a while (auth ...). After a few seconds the connection is

Re: [Dovecot] importing outlook express messages to dovecot imap server

2010-06-25 Thread Steffen Kaiser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 25 Jun 2010, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Angelo Chen put forth on 6/25/2010 1:32 AM: Hi, Nice approach, but the it's Thunderbird, what I have is outlook Express. The process is the same. Outlook Express can do this also. Have you ever used

Re: [Dovecot] importing outlook express messages to dovecot imap server

2010-06-25 Thread Steffen Kaiser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 25 Jun 2010, Patrick Nagel wrote: I tried something similar (with Thunderbird) once, and it caused a lot of trouble. We only had around 1.3 GB, IIRC, but thousands of folders. Here is a I cannot back it, I used TB v1.5 on Linux, where you

[Dovecot] Dovecot dies, maybe ntpdate related. I'm new to dovecot

2010-06-25 Thread Xavi Montero
Hi all, my first post. After years with an old server, a couple of months ago I've installed a new one. We use IMAP. After research, I chosed dovecot. It has been running for several weeks but from one week ago or so, it suddently dies about once per day. The only change done in the

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot dies, maybe ntpdate related. I'm new to dovecot

2010-06-25 Thread Frank Bonnet
I had the same problem due to clock backward On 06/25/2010 09:53 AM, Xavi Montero wrote: Hi all, my first post. After years with an old server, a couple of months ago I've installed a new one. We use IMAP. After research, I chosed dovecot. It has been running for several weeks but from one

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot dies, maybe ntpdate related. I'm new to dovecot

2010-06-25 Thread William Blunn
Xavi Montero wrote: It has been running for several weeks but from one week ago or so, it suddently dies about once per day. The only change done in the server one week ago has been to install ntpdate, running once per day in cron-daily. In the cron reports, ntpdate reports a time-jump of 9

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot dies, maybe ntpdate related. I'm new to dovecot

2010-06-25 Thread Tapio Sokura
On 25.6.2010 10:53, Xavi Montero wrote: The only change done in the server one week ago has been to install ntpdate, running once per day in cron-daily. In the cron reports, ntpdate reports a time-jump of 9 seconds each Time jumps, especially backwards, are not a good thing on a server. You

Re: [Dovecot] dovecot evaluation on a 30 gb mailbox

2010-06-25 Thread Timo Sirainen
On 25.6.2010, at 8.04, Denny Schierz wrote: Am Donnerstag, den 24.06.2010, 22:30 -0500 schrieb Stan Hoeppner: Does running imapproxy in this scenario yield any benefit, given there is no network traffic involved? it does. IMAPPRoxy caches for example all directories. If the user open a

[Dovecot] Thunderbird problem

2010-06-25 Thread Frank Bonnet
Hello Some users had occasionally a problem with Thunderbird , some random emails with attachement(s) cannot be read anymore the email appears empty and TB seems to enter in an infinite loop saying it is downloading the message The only solution I found was : 1 - stop thunderbird on the

Re: [Dovecot] Thunderbird problem

2010-06-25 Thread Steffen Kaiser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 25 Jun 2010, Frank Bonnet wrote: Some users had occasionally a problem with Thunderbird , some random emails with attachement(s) cannot be read anymore Yep. the email appears empty that one, too and TB seems to enter in an infinite

Re: [Dovecot] dovecot evaluation on a 30 gb mailbox

2010-06-25 Thread mail...@securitylabs.it
On 25/06/2010 13:46, Timo Sirainen wrote: Most people seem to be saying imapproxy helps a lot, because they noticed it helped so much with Courier/UW-IMAP.. Agree.

Re: [Dovecot] dovecot evaluation on a 30 gb mailbox

2010-06-25 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-06-24 9:18 PM, Timo Sirainen wrote: But with auth cache enabled, there is no extra database load. The index files are also most likely in OS's cache (assuming local disk), so no extra disk I/O to read them either. I'm sure it's a bit more extra CPU usage, but I'm not all that certain

Re: [Dovecot] importing outlook express messages to dovecot imap server

2010-06-25 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-06-25 3:19 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: It's interesting that you weren't able/willing to track down the source of the problem. It's also interesting how you mention single drag and drop. In my experience, you can't drag/drop _folders_ in Thunderbird at all. All the migrations I've done

Re: [Dovecot] importing outlook express messages to dovecot imap server

2010-06-25 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-06-25 2:02 AM, Patrick Nagel wrote: I tried something similar (with Thunderbird) once, and it caused a lot of trouble. We only had around 1.3 GB, IIRC, but thousands of folders. 3.1 is *much* better now... Now to figure out if there is a way to do this for an entire account - Inbox,

Re: [Dovecot] Thunderbird problem

2010-06-25 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-06-25 7:48 AM, Frank Bonnet wrote: Some users had occasionally a problem with Thunderbird , some random emails with attachement(s) cannot be read anymore the email appears empty and TB seems to enter in an infinite loop saying it is downloading the message The only solution I found

Re: [Dovecot] Thunderbird problem

2010-06-25 Thread Frank Bonnet
Thanks for your *complete* answer Charles . On 06/25/2010 02:32 PM, Charles Marcus wrote: On 2010-06-25 7:48 AM, Frank Bonnet wrote: Some users had occasionally a problem with Thunderbird , some random emails with attachement(s) cannot be read anymore the email appears empty and TB seems to

Re: [Dovecot] dovecot evaluation on a 30 gb mailbox

2010-06-25 Thread Amon Ott
On Friday 25 June 2010 wrote Charles Marcus: On 2010-06-24 9:18 PM, Timo Sirainen wrote: But with auth cache enabled, there is no extra database load. The index files are also most likely in OS's cache (assuming local disk), so no extra disk I/O to read them either. I'm sure it's a bit more

Re: [Dovecot] dovecot evaluation on a 30 gb mailbox

2010-06-25 Thread Timo Sirainen
On Fri, 2010-06-25 at 14:44 +0200, Amon Ott wrote: For whatever it is worth, we use imapproxy, because it allows us to use one-time passwords for webmail users. One login, not many. With large enough auth cache, I think that should also work with Dovecot directly (although if the session

Re: [Dovecot] importing outlook express messages to dovecot imap server

2010-06-25 Thread Xavi Montero
It's interesting that you weren't able/willing to track down the source of the problem. It's also interesting how you mention single drag and drop. In my experience, you can't drag/drop _folders_ in Thunderbird at all. All the migrations I've done this way required I migrated to my new server

[Dovecot] imap without smtp

2010-06-25 Thread Angelo Chen
hi, possible to setup a imap server without smtp? just want to store some old emails. Angelo

Re: [Dovecot] imap without smtp

2010-06-25 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-06-25 9:58 AM, Angelo Chen wrote: possible to setup a imap server without smtp? just want to store some old emails. Of course, one has nothing to do with the other. -- Best regards, Charles

Re: [Dovecot] imap without smtp

2010-06-25 Thread John S
On 6/25/2010 10:05 AM, Charles Marcus wrote: On 2010-06-25 9:58 AM, Angelo Chen wrote: possible to setup a imap server without smtp? just want to store some old emails. Of course, one has nothing to do with the other. A lot of trouble, more than just importing them into your

[Dovecot] Thunderbird's (in)ability to mass-upload mails to IMAP (was: Re: importing outlook express messages to dovecot imap server)

2010-06-25 Thread Patrick Nagel
Hi Stan, On 2010-06-25 07:19 UTC Stan Hoeppner wrote: Patrick Nagel put forth on 6/25/2010 1:02 AM: On 2010-06-25 03:51 UTC Stan Hoeppner wrote: [...] The first method is a single step process and is reliable. I tried something similar (with Thunderbird) once, and it caused a lot of

[Dovecot] auth_cache_size

2010-06-25 Thread Daniel L. Miller
I was going to ask how much space I should allocate for auth_cache_size - but decided to read the wiki first. Now I'll be more specific - Wiki says about 50 bytes per passdb, and up to 200 bytes for userdb - so my arithmetic says each combined entry needs 250 bytes budgeted. Assuming

Re: [Dovecot] Thunderbird's (in)ability to mass-upload mails to IMAP (was: Re: importing outlook express messages to dovecot imap server)

2010-06-25 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-06-25 10:27 AM, Patrick Nagel wrote: I don't know when you tried it, but with the version I used at the time (2.0.0.17? .18?), it was possible to copy one folder at a time from one account to another, by drag drop. 99% of the folders were inside one top level folder, which I

Re: [Dovecot] dovecot evaluation on a 30 gb mailbox

2010-06-25 Thread Michael M. Slusarz
Quoting Eric Rostetter rostet...@mail.utexas.edu: Quoting Daniel L. Miller dmil...@amfes.com: I know when I was playing web clients - particularly squirrelmail - there was a definite perceived improvement - but I never measured it. Webmail clients are basically stateless. Over time, they

Re: [Dovecot] auth_cache_size

2010-06-25 Thread Timo Sirainen
On Fri, 2010-06-25 at 08:09 -0700, Daniel L. Miller wrote: Let's start small. Assume ten users, all connected - and everybody also likes looking at everybody else's mailbox. So there are ten clients, each with at least ten connections (I say at least because each folder viewed within an

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot-2.0 conf misc questions

2010-06-25 Thread Timo Sirainen
On Wed, 2010-06-23 at 18:57 +0200, Thomas Hummel wrote: On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 04:40:35PM +0100, Timo Sirainen wrote: Hello Timo, doveconf: Fatal: Error in configuration file /usr/local/dovecot-1.2.12/etc/dovecot.conf line 176: Unknown setting: process_limit This was

Re: [Dovecot] Expunge email Plugin

2010-06-25 Thread Timo Sirainen
On Mon, 2010-06-21 at 17:27 -0300, Alex Baule wrote: Hello everyone. I Need to know when a email is expunge, but i don't need change this action. I Need to call another action + the default action. There is a plugin to do this ? In v2.0 there is a notify plugin which you can pretty

Re: [Dovecot] Plugin Handle input messages

2010-06-25 Thread Timo Sirainen
On Mon, 2010-06-21 at 16:43 -0300, Alex Baule wrote: if (imail-data.stream != NULL || (_mail-uid == 0 zuser-save_handler == NULL)) { return zmail-super.get_stream(_mail, hdr_size, body_size, stream_r); } I think this is the line that return

[Dovecot] Pigeonhole Managesieve issue with Dovecot 2.0

2010-06-25 Thread Tim Traver
Hi all, ok, I am running version v2.0.beta6 and the latest pigeonhole build to run managesieve and the sieve delivery filters... I am getting the following response from the managesieve port when connecting : Escape character is '^]'. IMPLEMENTATION Dovecot SIEVE SASL PLAIN STARTTLS VERSION

Re: [Dovecot] dovecot evaluation on a 30 gb mailbox

2010-06-25 Thread Eric Shubert
Rajesh M wrote: Rajesh M wrote: Rajesh M wrote: eric i studied LDA a bit if i use lda that means all my 5000+ users' email index files will be continuously updated when every email arrives -- means a lot of writes to disk ... is that correct ? Yes, but I think you make it sound worse

Re: [Dovecot] Pigeonhole Managesieve issue with Dovecot 2.0

2010-06-25 Thread Stephan Bosch
Tim Traver wrote: Hi all, ok, I am running version v2.0.beta6 and the latest pigeonhole build to run managesieve and the sieve delivery filters... I am getting the following response from the managesieve port when connecting : snip Am I missing something? A little. what might cause it

Re: [Dovecot] Pigeonhole Managesieve issue with Dovecot 2.0

2010-06-25 Thread Tim Traver
On 6/25/2010 3:26 PM, Stephan Bosch wrote: Basically, one of the top items on our TODO list. Changes to the Dovecot service configuration in Dovecot v2.0 broke the ability to dynamically obtain the ManageSieve capabilities before the user has logged in. We are close to fixing this, but until

Re: [Dovecot] dovecot evaluation on a 30 gb mailbox

2010-06-25 Thread Noel Butler
On Fri, 2010-06-25 at 13:49 +0100, Timo Sirainen wrote: On Fri, 2010-06-25 at 14:44 +0200, Amon Ott wrote: For whatever it is worth, we use imapproxy, because it allows us to use one-time passwords for webmail users. One login, not many. With large enough auth cache, I think that

Re: [Dovecot] dovecot evaluation on a 30 gb mailbox

2010-06-25 Thread Timo Sirainen
On 26.6.2010, at 0.57, Noel Butler wrote: As I mentioned earlier It doesnt with squirrelmail, I tried it on production and the I/O increased a bit, watching logging alone was giving me a headache (no, not in debug mode either).. How much is a bit that the I/O increased? Less than 10%? So

Re: [Dovecot] dovecot evaluation on a 30 gb mailbox

2010-06-25 Thread Noel Butler
apologies, I sent this direct to Eric not the list ore OP, my bad :) On Fri, 2010-06-25 at 13:46 -0700, Eric Shubert wrote: snipped 7 pages of irrelevant un-trimmed crap now i would also need to edit the dovecot.conf file could you guide me on what changes do i need to dovecot.conf

Re: [Dovecot] dovecot evaluation on a 30 gb mailbox

2010-06-25 Thread Noel Butler
On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 01:02 +0100, Timo Sirainen wrote: On 26.6.2010, at 0.57, Noel Butler wrote: As I mentioned earlier It doesnt with squirrelmail, I tried it on production and the I/O increased a bit, watching logging alone was giving me a headache (no, not in debug mode either)..

Re: [Dovecot] dovecot evaluation on a 30 gb mailbox

2010-06-25 Thread Brandon Davidson
Timo, On 6/24/10 4:23 AM, Timo Sirainen t...@iki.fi wrote: I'd recommend also installing and configuring imapproxy - it can be beneficial with squirrelmail. Do you have any about a real world numbers about installation with and without imapproxy? We run imapproxy behind our Roundcube

Re: [Dovecot] dovecot evaluation on a 30 gb mailbox

2010-06-25 Thread Timo Sirainen
On 26.6.2010, at 3.08, Brandon Davidson wrote: We run a proxy instance on each of the webmail hosts, with the communication between the web application add the proxy being done in cleartext, but with the proxy - Dovecot communication secured over SSL. Besides preventing a lot of extra SSL

Re: [Dovecot] Thunderbird problem

2010-06-25 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Steffen Kaiser put forth on 6/25/2010 7:01 AM: 2) thunderbird opened too many simultaneous connections to the server. I do not remember where they would blocked or terminated, but in some cases thunderbird did not seem to detect this failure This is a pet peeve of mine. Recent TB revs

Re: [Dovecot] importing outlook express messages to dovecot imap server

2010-06-25 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Charles Marcus put forth on 6/25/2010 7:25 AM: On 2010-06-25 3:19 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: It's interesting that you weren't able/willing to track down the source of the problem. It's also interesting how you mention single drag and drop. In my experience, you can't drag/drop _folders_ in

Re: [Dovecot] Thunderbird's (in)ability to mass-upload mails to IMAP (was: Re: importing outlook express messages to dovecot imap server)

2010-06-25 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Patrick Nagel put forth on 6/25/2010 9:27 AM: Hi Stan, On 2010-06-25 07:19 UTC Stan Hoeppner wrote: Patrick Nagel put forth on 6/25/2010 1:02 AM: On 2010-06-25 03:51 UTC Stan Hoeppner wrote: [...] The first method is a single step process and is reliable. I tried something similar (with

Re: [Dovecot] importing outlook express messages to dovecot imap server

2010-06-25 Thread Angelo Chen
hi, i just tried 3.x, it looks like i can't drag and drop sub folders, and one problem is, imap folders are on top, and local folders(imported from outlook) are below, and it has more than 300, drag and drop toward imap folders on top is very difficult. On Jun 26, 2010, at 11:24 AM, Stan