Understanding the limitations of Dovecot Submission Service

2020-11-04 Thread R. Diez
Hi all: The Dovecot Submission Service is very enticing for laz... I mean for busy people like me. A couple of lines in dovecot.conf , and you have a local SMTP server that does authentication. No SASL loops to jump through! Very cool people like me also appreciate cool new features like BURL.

Re: Delivering locally through the Submission Server

2020-11-03 Thread R. Diez
> And probably would never do. It isn't its job description. > [...] > The idea is to have one software package that does one defined set of > functions really well, as not to complicate things by lumping everything > together. Delivering mail is a generally complex process that needs > a separa

Re: Delivering locally through the Submission Server

2020-11-02 Thread R. Diez
what should it do with the non local messages or local messages directly at aliases? OK, so I gather that the Submission Server cannot do that (yet). My suggestion for a future version would then be: How about running dovecot-lda, if the user happens to be local, or a local alias? Or at leas

Delivering locally through the Submission Server

2020-11-02 Thread R. Diez
Hi all: I am learning Dovecot step by step. I have enabled the Submission Server, in the hope that I would not need to learn other MTAs like Postfix. The Submission Server is very comfortable: it picks up the existing Dovecot configuration, so that you do not need to configure any user authent

Re: Looking for a guide to collect all e-mail from the ISP mail server

2020-10-26 Thread R. Diez
2. install and configure OfflineIMAP to synchronize the IMAP folders between your ISP IMAP server and your Dovecot server; see for example http://www.offlineimap.org/doc/quick_start.html OfflineIMAP is not the way to go. Many ISPs have very low size limits for the mailbox sizes. The one I am

Re: Looking for a guide to collect all e-mail from the ISP mail server

2020-10-26 Thread R. Diez
Start of a HOWTO: 1) Install dovecot, create virtual accounts for all of your users 2) Install fetchmail, make it pull the ISPs IMAP and deliver locally 3) Install postfix as a smart relay and deliver locally to locals Feel free to fill in the details ;) And I thought you guys had nothing e

Re: Looking for a guide to collect all e-mail from the ISP mail server

2020-10-26 Thread R. Diez
There are plenty of guides available. I don't know your mother tongue, but seeing your last name, I assume you may be speaking German. Take a look at these German language guides: I do speak German, thanks for the links. https://www.it-management-kirchberger.at/manuals-tutorials/server-centos

Re: Looking for a guide to collect all e-mail from the ISP mail server

2020-10-26 Thread R. Diez
I would not advice any company that is continuously being fined for breaking the law. This is not only an overstatement, it is completely irrelevant.  Given the OP problem statement (small business, part-time admin, newbie to mail servers), I do not think there is a better solution A smal

Re: Looking for a guide to collect all e-mail from the ISP mail server

2020-10-26 Thread R. Diez
Besides, the way you suggest means opening a SMTP port to the outside world. A security risk and more work at the firewall etc. You can just allow some ip addresses of your provider to connect, not? Nothing outside world. Yes, you all want me to open ports. I'm sorry guys, but I won't budg

Re: Looking for a guide to collect all e-mail from the ISP mail server

2020-10-26 Thread R. Diez
Why don't you configure all stuff internally and ask your provider to relay the e-mails from and to you via "smart relay"?  You will communicate only via smtp and only with your provider, > [...] When you are a small business or a volunteer-run club or charity, you don't ask your provider. Y

Re: Looking for a guide to collect all e-mail from the ISP mail server

2020-10-26 Thread R. Diez
Have a look at Mailcow too, it comes with almost everything. I’ve been running it for a year now, after many years of usin a self-assembled stack, and it’s a bliss. Thanks for the hint. I initially discarded Mailcow because of this: "mailcow: dockerized comes with multiple containers" The i

Re: Looking for a guide to collect all e-mail from the ISP mail server

2020-10-26 Thread R. Diez
What you are looking for would be a very advanced setup > [...] I don't think so. But we'll see! I would be happy to take a pre-packaged mail server solution like iRedMail which includes RoundCube or whatever. I just need a "easy", practical guide to reconfigure it to 1) download e-mails f

Re: Looking for a guide to collect all e-mail from the ISP mail server

2020-10-26 Thread R. Diez
You look spammy if you don't have SPF or DKIM, and hopefully both. > [...] I don't want to worry about spam, SPF, DNS or the lot. That is what the ISP is there for. Most of them actually do a pretty good job for very little money in my experience. If not, you can always switch to another ISP

Re: Looking for a guide to collect all e-mail from the ISP mail server

2020-10-26 Thread R. Diez
That way your users can create their vacancies with the ISP portal, But then internal e-mails need to go out to the ISP, don't they? Because, if internal e-mails get delivered locally, the vacation autoresponses on the ISP will not trigger, will they? Hello R, I only wrote about the inco

Re: Looking for a guide to collect all e-mail from the ISP mail server

2020-10-25 Thread R. Diez
You need SPF and DKIM for your outgoing email to be accepted. > [...] I don't understand why that is the case (but keep in mind that I am a newbie). Is it not possible to set up some internal SMTP server that only relies the e-mails to the external ISP SMTP server? The internal SMTP server w

Re: Looking for a guide to collect all e-mail from the ISP mail server

2020-10-25 Thread R. Diez
Your goal does not sound weird. OK, thanks for the confirmation. The most painless way might be to fetch incoming messages from the ISP's IMAP and deliver them to your local dovecot. A shortened fetchmailrc would read: poll remote.server …   user …, password …   folder 'INBOX'   fetc

Looking for a guide to collect all e-mail from the ISP mail server

2020-10-25 Thread R. Diez
Hi all: I am evaluating mail server solutions for a small business. The trouble is, I am only a part-time admin and a newbie to mail servers. Most guides I have seen are rather unrealistic: they encourage you to expose your e-mail server to the Internet, and hope that you have the resources to

Re: How to move/reorganise existing e-mails to yearly subfolders

2020-10-20 Thread R. Diez
First of all, thanks for your answer. What is the problem with having huge online mailboxes? Just choose a > good european provider that has encryption all the way through to their> storage platform. We already have a European ISP with a standard e-mail server. I wanted to keep our own mai

How to move/reorganise existing e-mails to yearly subfolders

2020-10-19 Thread R. Diez
Hi all: I am new to e-mail servers and I am evaluating Dovecot. Not really the best combination. 8-) I am trying to find a balance between legal data retention requirements and online mailbox size. I do not want huge online mailboxes, as doing offline, rotating data backups could then take for

Downloading e-mail from a master mail server

2018-12-14 Thread R. Diez via dovecot
Hi all: I am trying to migrate a small company from Microsoft Exchange / Outlook to Thunderbird. I am evaluating e-mail server software. We have an Internet provider that we do not really want to rely upon. We also do not have the resources to maintain a mail server visible from the outside,