Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot 1.1.x and 1.2.x differencies

2010-06-16 Thread William Blunn
Stan Hoeppner wrote: I run Debian Stable. If I were to run Debian Testing I'd have much more up to date packages available. Call me conservative I guess. On a positive note, Debian Stable, as far behind as it is, has _much_ newer packages than RHEL and some other "stable" or "enterprise" di

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot 1.1.x and 1.2.x differencies

2010-06-16 Thread William Blunn
Stan Hoeppner wrote: I run Debian Stable. If I were to run Debian Testing I'd have much more up to date packages available. Call me conservative I guess. On a positive note, Debian Stable, as far behind as it is, has _much_ newer packages than RHEL and some other "stable" or "enterprise" di

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot 1.1.x and 1.2.x differencies

2010-06-16 Thread William Blunn
Stan Hoeppner wrote: I run Debian Stable. If I were to run Debian Testing I'd have much more up to date packages available. Call me conservative I guess. On a positive note, Debian Stable, as far behind as it is, has _much_ newer packages than RHEL and some other "stable" or "enterprise" di

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot 1.1.x and 1.2.x differencies

2010-06-16 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Charles Marcus put forth on 6/16/2010 7:18 AM: > On 2010-06-16 7:56 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> For this last minor bug, I was a one percenter, had the right >> combination--slow hardware plus mbox storage and full text >> searches on very large mbox files. > > Right, now I remember... > > So, it

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot 1.1.x and 1.2.x differencies

2010-06-16 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-06-16 7:56 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > For this last minor bug, I was a one percenter, had the right > combination--slow hardware plus mbox storage and full text > searches on very large mbox files. Right, now I remember... So, its working well for you now I presume (since you're still her

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot 1.1.x and 1.2.x differencies

2010-06-16 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Charles Marcus put forth on 6/16/2010 6:34 AM: > On 2010-06-16 7:29 AM, Charles Marcus wrote: >>> Once I installed it I almost immediately found problems with >>> performance. I reported the symptoms here, and within a day or two >>> Timo identified the cause relating to mbox processing and fixed

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot 1.1.x and 1.2.x differencies

2010-06-16 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Charles Marcus put forth on 6/16/2010 6:29 AM: > On 2010-06-16 1:15 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> Charles Marcus put forth on 6/15/2010 12:44 PM: >> >>> Waiting almost always keeps me from any major bugs from new packages >>> (one exception was a minor update to mailman that changed directory >>> loc

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot 1.1.x and 1.2.x differencies

2010-06-16 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
We're drifting quite OT here, but... On 06/16/2010 08:29 AM, Charles Marcus wrote: > Again - this is why I have never been inclined to even give debian a > try... with gentoo, with a very few minor exceptions, the most I've ever > had to wait was a few weeks... > If you want newer releases, yo

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot 1.1.x and 1.2.x differencies

2010-06-16 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-06-16 7:29 AM, Charles Marcus wrote: >> Once I installed it I almost immediately found problems with >> performance. I reported the symptoms here, and within a day or two >> Timo identified the cause relating to mbox processing and fixed it. >> It took a couple/three weeks IIRC before the

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot 1.1.x and 1.2.x differencies

2010-06-16 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-06-16 1:15 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Charles Marcus put forth on 6/15/2010 12:44 PM: > >> Waiting almost always keeps me from any major bugs from new packages >> (one exception was a minor update to mailman that changed directory >> locations), and still lets me stay up to date with the l

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot 1.1.x and 1.2.x differencies

2010-06-15 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Charles Marcus put forth on 6/15/2010 12:44 PM: > Waiting almost always keeps me from any major bugs from new packages > (one exception was a minor update to mailman that changed directory > locations), and still lets me stay up to date with the latest stable > releases. I waited "forever" to get

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot 1.1.x and 1.2.x differencies

2010-06-15 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-06-15 1:26 PM, Phil Howard wrote: > On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 11:30, Eric Rostetter > wrote: >> Quoting Veiko Kukk : >>> I prefer "don't fix if it isn't broken" philosophy. >> Reasonable, as long as the version you are running is still >> supported... > And if it isn't, you should upgrade

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot 1.1.x and 1.2.x differencies

2010-06-15 Thread Phil Howard
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 11:30, Eric Rostetter wrote: > Quoting Veiko Kukk : > >> I prefer "don't fix if it isn't broken" philosophy. > > Reasonable, as long as the version you are running is still supported... And if it isn't, you should upgrade. But when? Immediately? Or later when an issue c

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot 1.1.x and 1.2.x differencies

2010-06-15 Thread Eric Rostetter
Quoting Veiko Kukk : I prefer "don't fix if it isn't broken" philosophy. Reasonable, as long as the version you are running is still supported... I don't see that 1.2 is stable enought from what I have read from this list and Changelog. Some versions are, some are not... I've been running

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot 1.1.x and 1.2.x differencies

2010-06-15 Thread Eric Shubert
Charles Marcus wrote: On 2010-06-15 6:57 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Too bad the Debian Dovecot maintainer isn't 'The Flash' in getting binaries uploaded. For i386 anyway. He had the AMD64 1.2.11 binary uploaded to backports within a week IIRC. Took something like 2 weeks IIRC before he got the i3

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot 1.1.x and 1.2.x differencies

2010-06-15 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-06-15 6:57 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Too bad the Debian Dovecot maintainer isn't 'The Flash' in getting > binaries uploaded. For i386 anyway. He had the AMD64 1.2.11 binary > uploaded to backports within a week IIRC. Took something like 2 weeks > IIRC before he got the i386 binary uploade

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot 1.1.x and 1.2.x differencies

2010-06-15 Thread Arto Saraniva
> -Original Message- > From: dovecot-bounces+arto.saraniva=artio@dovecot.org > [mailto:dovecot-bounces+arto.saraniva=artio@dovecot.org] On Behalf > Of Veiko Kukk > Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 1:52 PM > To: dovecot@dovecot.org > Subject: Re: [Dovecot] Do

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot 1.1.x and 1.2.x differencies

2010-06-15 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Charles Marcus put forth on 6/15/2010 5:27 AM: > No software is bug free - thankfully, Timo is like 'The Flash' when it > comes to fixing bugs with dovecot... Too bad the Debian Dovecot maintainer isn't 'The Flash' in getting binaries uploaded. For i386 anyway. He had the AMD64 1.2.11 binary up

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot 1.1.x and 1.2.x differencies

2010-06-15 Thread Veiko Kukk
On 06/15/2010 01:27 PM, Charles Marcus wrote: Keeping current makes sure you take advantage of possibly unknown bugfixes and/or security holes, and also means when asking for help you won't get responses like 'that's already fixed in the current stable version', not to mention (sometimes consider

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot 1.1.x and 1.2.x differencies

2010-06-15 Thread Jerry
On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 11:05:51 +0300 Veiko Kukk articulated: > On 06/14/2010 04:41 PM, Charles Marcus wrote: > > Isn't it enough to know that 1.2 is the current *stable* branch? > > I prefer "don't fix if it isn't broken" philosophy. A true conservative. Our ancestors use to feel that a sharpene

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot 1.1.x and 1.2.x differencies

2010-06-15 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-06-15 4:05 AM, Veiko Kukk wrote: > I prefer "don't fix if it isn't broken" philosophy. I also subscribe to that philosophy, but there are limits. Keeping current makes sure you take advantage of possibly unknown bugfixes and/or security holes, and also means when asking for help you won't

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot 1.1.x and 1.2.x differencies

2010-06-15 Thread Veiko Kukk
On 06/14/2010 04:41 PM, Charles Marcus wrote: Isn't it enough to know that 1.2 is the current *stable* branch? I prefer "don't fix if it isn't broken" philosophy. I don't see that 1.2 is stable enought from what I have read from this list and Changelog. There have been lots of bugfixes during

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot 1.1.x and 1.2.x differencies

2010-06-14 Thread Phil Howard
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 07:43, Veiko Kukk wrote: > Hello, > > I have been using successfully Dovecot 1.1.x for about a year now. It has > been very stable. > Now I'm uprading that same system to newer and more powerful hardware and I > was wondering whether it is good idea or not to switch to Dove

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot 1.1.x and 1.2.x differencies

2010-06-14 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-06-14 7:43 AM, Veiko Kukk wrote: > Could anybody direct me to feature comparision document or explain > here main differences betweeen thos two branches? Isn't it enough to know that 1.2 is the current *stable* branch? Personally, unless there was something about 2.0 that wasn't stable in

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot 1.1.x and 1.2.x differencies

2010-06-14 Thread Eray Aslan
On 14.06.2010 14:43, Veiko Kukk wrote: > Could anybody direct me to feature comparision document or > explain here main differences betweeen thos two branches? Check the release notes: http://www.dovecot.org/doc/NEWS and the fine manual on upgrading to 1.2: http://wiki.dovecot.org/Upgrading/1.2

[Dovecot] Dovecot 1.1.x and 1.2.x differencies

2010-06-14 Thread Veiko Kukk
Hello, I have been using successfully Dovecot 1.1.x for about a year now. It has been very stable. Now I'm uprading that same system to newer and more powerful hardware and I was wondering whether it is good idea or not to switch to Dovecot 1.2.x series. Could anybody direct me to feature comp