Re: [Dovecot] Is this really a user agent issue?

2010-12-30 Thread Timo Sirainen
On Thu, 2010-12-23 at 15:08 -0700, Willie Gillespie wrote: The IMAP protocol has no way to push to the MUA that a folder (mailbox) has been freshly created. It has actually. NOTIFY extension makes it explicit, but it's possible to do that even in standard protocol. It's just that no server

Re: [Dovecot] Is this really a user agent issue?

2010-12-27 Thread Phil Howard
On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 17:08, Willie Gillespie wgillespie+dove...@es2eng.com wrote: Phil Howard wrote: I think this issue has been entirely misunderstood.  Have I explained it wrong? I think there's been a bit of confusion here.  Everyone is saying similar things in slightly different

Re: [Dovecot] Is this really a user agent issue?

2010-12-23 Thread Phil Howard
I think this issue has been entirely misunderstood. Have I explained it wrong? 2010/12/22 Karsten Bräckelmann guent...@rudersport.de: On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 09:34 -0500, Phil Howard wrote: 2010/12/21 Karsten Bräckelmann guent...@rudersport.de: Creating the new mail folder is entirely on the

Re: [Dovecot] Is this really a user agent issue?

2010-12-23 Thread David Warden
Out of curiosity, are you using the autosubscribe feature of Dovecot LDA to automatically subscribe people who whatever new folder the Dovecot LDA automatically creates? It looks like this is the -s flag to LDA binary in 1.1.3+ or lda_mailbox_autosubscribe in 2.0+ (not sure exactly what point

Re: [Dovecot] Is this really a user agent issue?

2010-12-23 Thread Phil Howard
On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 10:27, David Warden war...@geneseo.edu wrote: Out of curiosity, are you using the autosubscribe feature of Dovecot LDA to automatically subscribe people who whatever new folder the Dovecot LDA automatically creates? It looks like this is the -s flag to LDA binary in

Re: [Dovecot] Is this really a user agent issue?

2010-12-23 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-12-23 10:27 AM, David Warden wrote: I know Thunderbird can be difficult when it comes to new folders showing up on the server that it didn't create. Main reason I always uncheck the 'show only subscribed folders' option in the Advanced settings... -- Best regards, Charles

Re: [Dovecot] Is this really a user agent issue?

2010-12-23 Thread Phil Howard
On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 12:28, Charles Marcus cmar...@media-brokers.com wrote: On 2010-12-23 10:27 AM, David Warden wrote: I know Thunderbird can be difficult when it comes to new folders showing up on the server that it didn't create. Main reason I always uncheck the 'show only subscribed

Re: [Dovecot] Is this really a user agent issue?

2010-12-23 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-12-23 2:33 PM, Phil Howard wrote: On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 12:28, Charles Marcus wrote: On 2010-12-23 10:27 AM, David Warden wrote: I know Thunderbird can be difficult when it comes to new folders showing up on the server that it didn't create. Main reason I always uncheck the 'show

Re: [Dovecot] Is this really a user agent issue?

2010-12-23 Thread Willie Gillespie
Phil Howard wrote: I think this issue has been entirely misunderstood. Have I explained it wrong? I think there's been a bit of confusion here. Everyone is saying similar things in slightly different ways. The IMAP protocol has no way to push to the MUA that a folder (mailbox) has been

Re: [Dovecot] Is this really a user agent issue?

2010-12-22 Thread Phil Howard
2010/12/21 Karsten Bräckelmann guent...@rudersport.de: Creating the new mail folder is entirely on the IMAP server side. The MUA (Evolution in your stated case) is irrelevant. If the creation of the new folder fails, it is a server side problem. However, once a new folder has been created

Re: [Dovecot] Is this really a user agent issue?

2010-12-22 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 09:34 -0500, Phil Howard wrote: 2010/12/21 Karsten Bräckelmann guent...@rudersport.de: Creating the new mail folder is entirely on the IMAP server side. The MUA (Evolution in your stated case) is irrelevant. If the creation of the new folder fails, it is a server

[Dovecot] Is this really a user agent issue?

2010-12-21 Thread Phil Howard
I suspect this is a user agent issue, given that Evolution is flaky in so many areas. When I deliver mail to a subfolder/subbox (e.g. the -m option in the deliver command), and Evolution doesn't know of it, yet, creating it fails, and Evolution still can't get to it. Doing things the other way

Re: [Dovecot] Is this really a user agent issue?

2010-12-21 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Tue, 2010-12-21 at 14:48 -0500, Phil Howard wrote: I suspect this is a user agent issue, given that Evolution is flaky in so many areas. When I deliver mail to a subfolder/subbox (e.g. the -m option in the deliver command), and Evolution doesn't know of it, yet, creating it fails, and