Re: [Dovecot] Please help me resolve why mail isn't being delivered to virtual users

Timo Sirainen wrote: > On Fri, 2008-01-11 at 11:43 -0700, Andrew Falanga wrote: >> Unfortunately, I used as an example, mbox and MAILDIR to make my point. >> Perhaps this was a bad choice because I felt this same frustration in >> reading other areas of the wiki. It wasn't that the information was

Re: [Dovecot] Please help me resolve why mail isn't being delivered to virtual users

On Fri, 2008-01-11 at 11:43 -0700, Andrew Falanga wrote: > Unfortunately, I used as an example, mbox and MAILDIR to make my point. > Perhaps this was a bad choice because I felt this same frustration in > reading other areas of the wiki. It wasn't that the information was bad, or > unusable. I ju

Re: [Dovecot] Please help me resolve why mail isn't being delivered to virtual users

On Fri, 11 Jan 2008, Andrew Falanga wrote: In the future, I shall endeavor to look more heavily for the answers before posting, or at least before assuming that no one on this list is willing to help. Thank you to all for the help given. Sure thing. If you have suggestions to improve the wik

Re: [Dovecot] Please help me resolve why mail isn't being delivered to virtual users

on 1/11/2008 10:43 AM Andrew Falanga spake the following: Hi everybody, There are a few things that I think I need to explain. Far too many people gave me feedback after my remarks about the dovecot wiki for me to answer all individually. At first, I must admit to some prideful need to lash ba

Re: [Dovecot] Please help me resolve why mail isn't being delivered to virtual users

Hi everybody, There are a few things that I think I need to explain. Far too many people gave me feedback after my remarks about the dovecot wiki for me to answer all individually. At first, I must admit to some prideful need to lash back for not being understood. This however, would be totally

Re: [Dovecot] Please help me resolve why mail isn't being delivered to virtual users

on 1/10/2008 1:20 PM Evaggelos Balaskas spake the following: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I don't understand why people always want something more :D Can you expand on that? ;-P -- MailScanner is like deodorant... You hope everybody uses it, and you notice quickly if they d

Re: [Dovecot] Please help me resolve why mail isn't being delivered to virtual users

On 1/10/2008, Brian T Glenn ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Is it really that foreign of a concept to encounter a term you are not familiar with, copy it into your clipboard, and paste it into Google? I thought that was half of being successful at IT? I love the ContextSearch extension (used to wor

Re: [Dovecot] Please help me resolve why mail isn't being delivered to virtual users

Andrew Falanga wrote: > > [snip] > > If it's expected that the reader knows what the difference between mbox and > MAILDIR is, then a "disclaimer" or sorts should be given at least in the > opening page of the wiki. Something like, "It's assumed that the reader has > more than a basic understand

Re: [Dovecot] Please help me resolve why mail isn't being delivered to virtual users

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I dont understand why people always want something more :D Charles Marcus wrote: | So go for it! You have a brain. You have a library somehwere close by. | You have bookstores. You have fingers. You have a computer. You have an | internet connection.

Re: [Dovecot] Please help me resolve why mail isn't being delivered to virtual users

On 1/10/2008, Andrew Falanga ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: What I wasn't clear on was how the mail actually ended up into a persons "INBOX." This process was unknown to me. It was educational to me that it was sendmail that handles this. Actually, it is the DELIVERY AGENT that is responsible for

Re: [Dovecot] Please help me resolve why mail isn't being delivered to virtual users

on 1/10/2008 10:37 AM Brian T Glenn spake the following: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 10:26:05AM -0700, Andrew Falanga may have written: In an ideal world, perhaps, no one would setup a mail server unless they knew how to. The trouble is, this position

Re: [Dovecot] Please help me resolve why mail isn't being delivered to virtual users

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 10:26:05AM -0700, Andrew Falanga may have written: > > In an ideal world, perhaps, no one would setup a mail server unless they > knew how to. The trouble is, this position doesn't take into account that > we *DON'T* live in a

Re: [Dovecot] Please help me resolve why mail isn't being delivered to virtual users

On Jan 10, 2008 9:03 AM, Scott Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 1/9/2008 3:02 PM Andrew Falanga spake the following: > > On Jan 9, 2008 3:24 PM, Pascal Volk < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > >> Am 09.01.2008 22:51 schrieb Asheesh Laroia: > >>> As they say, I have been schooled. (-: > >>

Re: [Dovecot] Please help me resolve why mail isn't being delivered to virtual users

On Jan 10, 2008 5:28 AM, Charles Marcus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andrew Falanga, on 1/9/2008 6:02 PM, said the following: > >> What should I say? The Dovecot wiki is very > >> informative. :-) > > > Very informative yes, but at the same time it seems to make the same

Re: [Dovecot] Please help me resolve why mail isn't being delivered to virtual users

on 1/9/2008 3:02 PM Andrew Falanga spake the following: On Jan 9, 2008 3:24 PM, Pascal Volk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Am 09.01.2008 22:51 schrieb Asheesh Laroia: As they say, I have been schooled. (-: My apologies - I wasn't aware of these "virtual user with a UID" setups. I was only aware o

Re: [Dovecot] Please help me resolve why mail isn't being delivered to virtual users

On Jan 10, 2008 4:55 AM, mouss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andrew Falanga wrote: > > > > You have no idea how much I appreciate this posting. I installed > procmail > > last night, but couldn't find any reliable information on how to > integrate > > it into my sendmail system. This is most help

Re: [Dovecot] Please help me resolve why mail isn't being delivered to virtual users

Andrew Falanga, on 1/9/2008 6:02 PM, said the following: What should I say? The Dovecot wiki is very informative. :-) Very informative yes, but at the same time it seems to make the same mistake all people make when writing documentation. There are many assumptions

Re: [Dovecot] Please help me resolve why mail isn't being delivered to virtual users

Andrew Falanga wrote: You have no idea how much I appreciate this posting. I installed procmail last night, but couldn't find any reliable information on how to integrate it into my sendmail system. This is most helpful. Just out of curiosity, would you know how difficult it would be to confi

Re: [Dovecot] Please help me resolve why mail isn't being delivered to virtual users

Timo Sirainen wrote: On Thu, 2008-01-10 at 09:32 +0100, mouss wrote: Pascal Volk wrote: Am 09.01.2008 21:43 schrieb Asheesh Laroia: Not in the way I was describing: Let's say some person logs on to your Dovecot-based IMAP service and figures out how to take over Dovecot to read and modify ar

Re: [Dovecot] Please help me resolve why mail isn't being delivered to virtual users

On Thu, 2008-01-10 at 09:32 +0100, mouss wrote: > Pascal Volk wrote: > > Am 09.01.2008 21:43 schrieb Asheesh Laroia: > >> Not in the way I was describing: > >> > >> Let's say some person logs on to your Dovecot-based IMAP service and > >> figures out how to take over Dovecot to read and modify arb

Re: [Dovecot] Please help me resolve why mail isn't being delivered to virtual users

Pascal Volk wrote: > Am 09.01.2008 21:43 schrieb Asheesh Laroia: >> Not in the way I was describing: >> >> Let's say some person logs on to your Dovecot-based IMAP service and >> figures out how to take over Dovecot to read and modify arbitrary files on >> the system. (Timo, I hope this doesn't

Re: [Dovecot] Please help me resolve why mail isn't being delivered to virtual users

On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 16:02 -0700, Andrew Falanga wrote: > Very informative yes, but at the same time it seems to make the same mistake > all people make when writing documentation. There are many assumptions made > that a lot of fundamental knowledge of how mail works is known to the > reader. F

Re: [Dovecot] Please help me resolve why mail isn't being delivered to virtual users

At 8:33 PM -0700 1/8/08, Andrew Falanga wrote: On Jan 8, 2008 7:31 AM, Bill Cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At 6:52 AM -0500 1/8/08, Charles Marcus wrote: >Andrew Falanga, on 1/7/2008 11:18 PM, said the following: >>What must be done to make sendmail do its thing for deliver? > >I don't th

Re: [Dovecot] Please help me resolve why mail isn't being delivered to virtual users

On Jan 9, 2008 3:24 PM, Pascal Volk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am 09.01.2008 22:51 schrieb Asheesh Laroia: > > > > As they say, I have been schooled. (-: > > > > My apologies - I wasn't aware of these "virtual user with a UID" setups. > > I was only aware of the "virtual users all share a UID" s

Re: [Dovecot] Please help me resolve why mail isn't being delivered to virtual users

Am 09.01.2008 22:51 schrieb Asheesh Laroia: > > As they say, I have been schooled. (-: > > My apologies - I wasn't aware of these "virtual user with a UID" setups. > I was only aware of the "virtual users all share a UID" setup like the > thread starter described. What should I say? The Doveco

Re: [Dovecot] Please help me resolve why mail isn't being delivered to virtual users

On Wed, 9 Jan 2008, Pascal Volk wrote: Am 09.01.2008 21:43 schrieb Asheesh Laroia: Not in the way I was describing: Let's say some person logs on to your Dovecot-based IMAP service and figures out how to take over Dovecot to read and modify arbitrary files on the system. (Timo, I hope this do

Re: [Dovecot] Please help me resolve why mail isn't being delivered to virtual users

Am 09.01.2008 21:43 schrieb Asheesh Laroia: > Not in the way I was describing: > > Let's say some person logs on to your Dovecot-based IMAP service and > figures out how to take over Dovecot to read and modify arbitrary files on > the system. (Timo, I hope this doesn't happen - but bear with me

Re: [Dovecot] Please help me resolve why mail isn't being delivered to virtual users

On Wed, 9 Jan 2008, Gerard wrote: On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 12:17:22 -0800 (PST) Asheesh Laroia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 9 Jan 2008, Charles Marcus wrote: On 1/9/2008, Asheesh Laroia ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Basically - the above is a reason to use 'adduser', not a reason to use virtua

Re: [Dovecot] Please help me resolve why mail isn't being delivered to virtual users

On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 12:17:22 -0800 (PST) Asheesh Laroia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 9 Jan 2008, Charles Marcus wrote: > > > On 1/9/2008, Asheesh Laroia ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >> Basically - the above is a reason to use 'adduser', not a reason > >> to use virtual users! If I'm wro

Re: [Dovecot] Please help me resolve why mail isn't being delivered to virtual users

On Wed, 9 Jan 2008, Charles Marcus wrote: On 1/9/2008, Asheesh Laroia ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Basically - the above is a reason to use 'adduser', not a reason to use virtual users! If I'm wrong, please clarify my understanding. My understanding is using Virtual Users is inherently more s

Re: [Dovecot] Please help me resolve why mail isn't being delivered to virtual users

On 1/9/2008, Asheesh Laroia ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Basically - the above is a reason to use 'adduser', not a reason to use virtual users! If I'm wrong, please clarify my understanding. My understanding is using Virtual Users is inherently more secure, since the users do not have system a

Re: [Dovecot] Please help me resolve why mail isn't being delivered to virtual users

On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 11:46:45 -0800 (PST) Asheesh Laroia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > "One thought is to to give e-mail accounts to church members who want > them" - that's easy, just run the system adduser command! > > In my opinion, fiddling with virtual users is not usually worth the >

Re: [Dovecot] Please help me resolve why mail isn't being delivered to virtual users

On Tue, 8 Jan 2008, Andrew Falanga wrote: On Jan 7, 2008 9:55 PM, Asheesh Laroia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, 7 Jan 2008, Andrew Falanga wrote: I have to admit that I'm not quite sure why no one has responded to me about this one. If I'm not providing enough information or incorrect

Re: [Dovecot] Please help me resolve why mail isn't being delivered to virtual users

On Jan 8, 2008 7:31 AM, Bill Cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 6:52 AM -0500 1/8/08, Charles Marcus wrote: > >Andrew Falanga, on 1/7/2008 11:18 PM, said the following: > >>What must be done to make sendmail do its thing for deliver? > > > >I don't think its because anyone is snubbing you... ;)

Re: [Dovecot] Please help me resolve why mail isn't being delivered to virtual users

On Jan 8, 2008 6:01 AM, Peter Eriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Andrew Falanga, on 1/7/2008 11:18 PM, said the following: > >>> What must be done to make sendmail do its thing for deliver? > > I use Dovecot in conjunction with Sendmail with Maildirs as the > mail store and it works fine.

Re: [Dovecot] Please help me resolve why mail isn't being delivered to virtual users

On Jan 8, 2008 5:27 AM, Gerard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 06:52:53 -0500 > Charles Marcus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Andrew Falanga, on 1/7/2008 11:18 PM, said the following: > > > What must be done to make sendmail do its thing for deliver? > > > > I don't think its be

Re: [Dovecot] Please help me resolve why mail isn't being delivered to virtual users

On Jan 7, 2008 9:55 PM, Asheesh Laroia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 7 Jan 2008, Andrew Falanga wrote: > > > I have to admit that I'm not quite sure why no one has responded to me > about > > this one. If I'm not providing enough information or incorrect > information > > please tell me.

Re: [Dovecot] Please help me resolve why mail isn't being delivered to virtual users

At 6:52 AM -0500 1/8/08, Charles Marcus wrote: Andrew Falanga, on 1/7/2008 11:18 PM, said the following: What must be done to make sendmail do its thing for deliver? I don't think its because anyone is snubbing you... ;) I think one of the reasons is not as many people use sendmail anymore -

Re: [Dovecot] Please help me resolve why mail isn't being delivered to virtual users

>> Andrew Falanga, on 1/7/2008 11:18 PM, said the following: >>> What must be done to make sendmail do its thing for deliver? I use Dovecot in conjunction with Sendmail with Maildirs as the mail store and it works fine. We use "procmail" as the local delivery agent though. Stuff in the sendmail

Re: [Dovecot] Please help me resolve why mail isn't being delivered to virtual users

On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 06:52:53 -0500 Charles Marcus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andrew Falanga, on 1/7/2008 11:18 PM, said the following: > > What must be done to make sendmail do its thing for deliver? > > I don't think its because anyone is snubbing you... ;) > > I think one of the reasons is n

Re: [Dovecot] Please help me resolve why mail isn't being delivered to virtual users

Andrew Falanga, on 1/7/2008 11:18 PM, said the following: What must be done to make sendmail do its thing for deliver? I don't think its because anyone is snubbing you... ;) I think one of the reasons is not as many people use sendmail anymore - I wouldn't have a clue... sorry... -- Best r

Re: [Dovecot] Please help me resolve why mail isn't being delivered to virtual users

On Mon, 7 Jan 2008, Andrew Falanga wrote: I have to admit that I'm not quite sure why no one has responded to me about this one. If I'm not providing enough information or incorrect information please tell me. It's quite important that this e-mail system be working. Well, I can try to help.

[Dovecot] Please help me resolve why mail isn't being delivered to virtual users

follow up: I forgot to mention, that I discovered my system doesn't appear to have procmail on it. So, I'm not sure what must be done for delivery of mail concerning that "LDA/Sendmail" dovecot WIKI page. Andy

[Dovecot] Please help me resolve why mail isn't being delivered to virtual users

Hi, I have to admit that I'm not quite sure why no one has responded to me about this one. If I'm not providing enough information or incorrect information please tell me. It's quite important that this e-mail system be working. I do not quite understand what it is that I'm missing now. I ha