Re: New Dovecot service: SMTP Submission (RFC6409)

2017-12-22 Thread Timo Sirainen
On 22 Dec 2017, at 15.28, Tanstaafl wrote: > > On 12/22/2017, 1:19:45 AM, Aki Tuomi wrote: >> Tanstaafl, maybe you could explain what you think the BURL/URLAUTH >> stuff is for, or do you have some particular use case you would be using >> it?

Re: New Dovecot service: SMTP Submission (RFC6409)

2017-12-22 Thread Tanstaafl
On 12/22/2017, 1:19:45 AM, Aki Tuomi wrote: > Tanstaafl, maybe you could explain what you think the BURL/URLAUTH > stuff is for, or do you have some particular use case you would be using > it? Client support already is not required, and yes, it might take a > long time

Re: New Dovecot service: SMTP Submission (RFC6409)

2017-12-21 Thread Aki Tuomi
> On December 20, 2017 at 4:39 PM Tanstaafl wrote: > > > On Sat Dec 16 2017 15:41:25 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time), Tanstaafl > wrote: > > Ok, well, my ignorance is probably glaring here, but what I meant was, > > the make the

Re: New Dovecot service: SMTP Submission (RFC6409)

2017-12-20 Thread Marcus Rueckert
On 2017-12-20 14:39, Tanstaafl wrote: On Sat Dec 16 2017 15:41:25 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time), Tanstaafl wrote: Ok, well, my ignorance is probably glaring here, but what I meant was, the make the BURL/URLAUTH pieces strictly between Dovecot and the backend SMTP

Re: New Dovecot service: SMTP Submission (RFC6409)

2017-12-20 Thread Tanstaafl
On Sat Dec 16 2017 15:41:25 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time), Tanstaafl wrote: > Ok, well, my ignorance is probably glaring here, but what I meant was, > the make the BURL/URLAUTH pieces strictly between Dovecot and the > backend SMTP server, make it invisible to the

Re: New Dovecot service: SMTP Submission (RFC6409)

2017-12-16 Thread Tanstaafl
On 12/16/2017, 5:10:14 AM, Stephan Bosch wrote: > Op 12/14/2017 om 6:07 PM schreef Tanstaafl: >> One other point. >> >> Adding support for something like this that also requires Clients to add >> support for it is just begging for a feature that never gets used. >> >>

Re: New Dovecot service: SMTP Submission (RFC6409)

2017-12-16 Thread Stephan Bosch
Op 12/14/2017 om 6:07 PM schreef Tanstaafl: > One other point. > > Adding support for something like this that also requires Clients to add > support for it is just begging for a feature that never gets used. > > Stephan, are you sure there is no (fairly simple) way to make this an > SMTP service

Re: New Dovecot service: SMTP Submission (RFC6409)

2017-12-14 Thread Tanstaafl
One other point. Adding support for something like this that also requires Clients to add support for it is just begging for a feature that never gets used. Stephan, are you sure there is no (fairly simple) way to make this an SMTP service that any email client that supports SMTP can use? On

Re: New Dovecot service: SMTP Submission (RFC6409)

2017-12-14 Thread Tanstaafl
On 12/14/2017, 3:03:41 AM, Aki Tuomi wrote: > On 13.12.2017 21:41, Tanstaafl wrote: >> On 12/12/2017, 1:39:08 PM, Stephan Bosch wrote: >> I thought this was simply going to be an SMTP like service that any SMTP >> client could utilize, keeping the

Re: New Dovecot service: SMTP Submission (RFC6409)

2017-12-14 Thread Stephan Bosch
Op 14-12-2017 om 8:26 schreef María Arrea:     Stephan, thank you very much for your hard work. I want to ask your opinion about jmap ( http://jmap.io/ ) , do you think is a viable alternative to current IMAP + MSA ? Difficult to tell at this point, as It is not finished yet. It all

Re: New Dovecot service: SMTP Submission (RFC6409)

2017-12-14 Thread Aki Tuomi
On 13.12.2017 21:41, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 12/12/2017, 1:39:08 PM, Stephan Bosch wrote: >> However, keep in mind that for this particular feature we're just >> providing the "chicken" as it were. The "egg", i.e. client support, is >> still to come. Apart from Trojita

Re: New Dovecot service: SMTP Submission (RFC6409)

2017-12-13 Thread María Arrea
    Stephan, thank you very much for your hard work. I want to ask your opinion about jmap ( http://jmap.io/ ) , do you think is a viable alternative to current IMAP + MSA ?     Regards     María El 12/12/17 a las 00:14, Stephan Bosch escribió: Hi, As some of you know, I started

Re: New Dovecot service: SMTP Submission (RFC6409)

2017-12-13 Thread Tanstaafl
On 12/12/2017, 1:39:08 PM, Stephan Bosch wrote: > However, keep in mind that for this particular feature we're just > providing the "chicken" as it were. The "egg", i.e. client support, is > still to come. Apart from Trojita (which I think is still not widely > used), I

Re: New Dovecot service: SMTP Submission (RFC6409)

2017-12-12 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 12.12.2017 um 00:14 schrieb Stephan Bosch: > Hi, > > As some of you know, I started implementing the SMTP submission proxy a > few years ago. It acts as a front-end for any MTA, adding the necessary > functionality for an SMTP submission service, also known as a Mail > Submission Agent (MSA)

Re: New Dovecot service: SMTP Submission (RFC6409)

2017-12-12 Thread Stephan Bosch
Op 12-12-2017 om 15:28 schreef Tanstaafl: This is fantastic Stephan! Especially since I'll soon be rolling a new Dovecot server to act as a backup for our current Office 365 mail, as well as to be prepared in case I can ever talk the boss into migrating back to dovecot (we were using Dovecot

New Dovecot service: SMTP Submission (RFC6409)

2017-12-11 Thread Stephan Bosch
Hi, As some of you know, I started implementing the SMTP submission proxy a few years ago. It acts as a front-end for any MTA, adding the necessary functionality for an SMTP submission service, also known as a Mail Submission Agent (MSA) (https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6409). The main reason I