Re: [Dovecot] Changing SSL certificates - switching from self-signed to RapidSSL

2014-04-19 Thread Charles Marcus
On 4/19/2014 3:30 AM, Stephan von Krawczynski wrote: On Sat, 19 Apr 2014 09:22:07 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote: Am 19.04.2014 09:14, schrieb Stephan von Krawczynski: 2) "real certs" issued from cert-dealers are no more safe than your self-signed was. yes but you can't change that nor can i

Re: [Dovecot] Changing SSL certificates - switching from self-signed to RapidSSL

2014-04-19 Thread Charles Marcus
Please Reply-To-List, don't send to me directly, I'm on the list. On 4/19/2014 3:14 AM, Stephan von Krawczynski wrote: On Fri, 18 Apr 2014 13:57:47 -0400 Charles Marcus wrote: Hi all, Ok, been wanting to do this for a while, and I after the Heartbleed fiasco, the boss finally agreed to let

Re: [Dovecot] Changing SSL certificates - switching from self-signed to RapidSSL

2014-04-19 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 19.04.2014 10:44, schrieb Stephan von Krawczynski: > On Sat, 19 Apr 2014 10:20:39 +0200 > Reindl Harald wrote: > >> and where does it lead to trigger warnings all over the planet and train >> people to ignore them? in case of a mailserver that's not a real big >> problem because they amount

Re: [Dovecot] Changing SSL certificates - switching from self-signed to RapidSSL

2014-04-19 Thread Stephan von Krawczynski
On Sat, 19 Apr 2014 10:20:39 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote: > and where does it lead to trigger warnings all over the planet and train > people to ignore them? in case of a mailserver that's not a real big > problem because they amount of users is limited > > on a public website it is insane to pre

Re: [Dovecot] Changing SSL certificates - switching from self-signed to RapidSSL

2014-04-19 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 19.04.2014 09:58, schrieb Stephan von Krawczynski: > On Sat, 19 Apr 2014 09:40:07 +0200 > Reindl Harald wrote: > >> it is working, it is working as good as it can and if you compare the >> costs of 130 € for 3 years with support calls because self signed >> certificates and do a *real harm*

Re: [Dovecot] Changing SSL certificates - switching from self-signed to RapidSSL

2014-04-19 Thread Stephan von Krawczynski
On Sat, 19 Apr 2014 09:40:07 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote: > it is working, it is working as good as it can and if you compare the > costs of 130 € for 3 years with support calls because self signed > certificates and do a *real harm* by train ordinary users to ignore > warnings just guess which way

Re: [Dovecot] Changing SSL certificates - switching from self-signed to RapidSSL

2014-04-19 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 19.04.2014 09:30, schrieb Stephan von Krawczynski: > On Sat, 19 Apr 2014 09:22:07 +0200 > Reindl Harald wrote: >> yes, but you seem not to understand hat "Heartbleed" is the moment >> which you can use to say "now let us take SSL serious" in general >> as well as other security topics because

Re: [Dovecot] Changing SSL certificates - switching from self-signed to RapidSSL

2014-04-19 Thread Stephan von Krawczynski
On Sat, 19 Apr 2014 09:22:07 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 19.04.2014 09:14, schrieb Stephan von Krawczynski: > > On Fri, 18 Apr 2014 13:57:47 -0400 > > Charles Marcus wrote: > > > >> Hi all, > >> > >> Ok, been wanting to do this for a while, and I after the Heartbleed > >> fiasco, the

Re: [Dovecot] Changing SSL certificates - switching from self-signed to RapidSSL

2014-04-19 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 19.04.2014 09:14, schrieb Stephan von Krawczynski: > On Fri, 18 Apr 2014 13:57:47 -0400 > Charles Marcus wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Ok, been wanting to do this for a while, and I after the Heartbleed >> fiasco, the boss finally agreed to let me buy some real certs... > > Well, I guess one h

Re: [Dovecot] Changing SSL certificates - switching from self-signed to RapidSSL

2014-04-19 Thread Stephan von Krawczynski
On Fri, 18 Apr 2014 13:57:47 -0400 Charles Marcus wrote: > Hi all, > > Ok, been wanting to do this for a while, and I after the Heartbleed > fiasco, the boss finally agreed to let me buy some real certs... Well, I guess one has to tell you that: 1) No certs no matter if self-signed or not woul

Re: [Dovecot] Changing SSL certificates - switching from self-signed to RapidSSL

2014-04-19 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 19.04.2014 03:29, schrieb Joseph Tam: > Charles Marcus wrote: > >> 2014-04-18T15:54:07-04:00 dinkumthinkum dovecot: imap-login: >> Disconnected (no auth attempts in 0 secs): user=<>, TLS handshaking: >> SSL_accept() failed: error:14094412:SSL routines:SSL3_READ_BYTES:sslv3 >> alert bad certif

Re: [Dovecot] Changing SSL certificates - switching from self-signed to RapidSSL

2014-04-18 Thread Joseph Tam
Charles Marcus wrote: 2014-04-18T15:54:07-04:00 dinkumthinkum dovecot: imap-login: Disconnected (no auth attempts in 0 secs): user=<>, TLS handshaking: SSL_accept() failed: error:14094412:SSL routines:SSL3_READ_BYTES:sslv3 alert bad certificate: SSL alert number 42, rip=99.14.24.224, lport=143

Re: [Dovecot] Changing SSL certificates - switching from self-signed to RapidSSL

2014-04-18 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 18.04.2014 22:12, schrieb Charles Marcus: > Ahh... I'm sure we have some older clients that are still configured to use a > different hostname... > > So, if the new certs are for mail.example.com, and a client tries to connect > using a different hostname, like > imap.example.com, would tha

Re: [Dovecot] Changing SSL certificates - switching from self-signed to RapidSSL

2014-04-18 Thread Charles Marcus
On 4/18/2014 4:41 PM, Markus Schönhaber wrote: The errors indicate that a client didn't like your certificate for some reason. One of the possible reasons surely is a CN in the certificate that doesn't match the name of the server the client thinks he's connecting to. So the answer to your que

Re: [Dovecot] Changing SSL certificates - switching from self-signed to RapidSSL

2014-04-18 Thread Markus Schönhaber
18.04.2014 22:12, Charles Marcus: > On 4/18/2014 3:57 PM, Charles Marcus wrote: >> Everything seems to be working, BUT... I'm now seeing some of these >> errors, that were not showing up in the logs before: >> >> 2014-04-18T15:42:24-04:00 dinkumthinkum dovecot: imap-login: >> Disconnected (no a

Re: [Dovecot] Changing SSL certificates - switching from self-signed to RapidSSL

2014-04-18 Thread Alessandro Menti
Il 18/04/2014 22:08, Charles Marcus ha scritto: On 4/18/2014 3:32 PM, Alessandro Menti wrote: 2) open /etc/ssl/ourNewCerts/mail.ourdomain.com.crt and, at the end of the file, paste the contents of /etc/ssl/ourNewCerts /RapidSSL_Intermediate.crt; in the end, /etc/ssl/ourNewCerts /mail.o

Re: [Dovecot] Changing SSL certificates - switching from self-signed to RapidSSL

2014-04-18 Thread Charles Marcus
On 4/18/2014 3:57 PM, Charles Marcus wrote: Everything seems to be working, BUT... I'm now seeing some of these errors, that were not showing up in the logs before: 2014-04-18T15:42:24-04:00 dinkumthinkum dovecot: imap-login: Disconnected (no auth attempts in 0 secs): user=<>, TLS: SSL_read()

Re: [Dovecot] Changing SSL certificates - switching from self-signed to RapidSSL

2014-04-18 Thread Charles Marcus
On 4/18/2014 3:32 PM, Alessandro Menti wrote: 2) open /etc/ssl/ourNewCerts/mail.ourdomain.com.crt and, at the end of the file, paste the contents of /etc/ssl/ourNewCerts /RapidSSL_Intermediate.crt; in the end, /etc/ssl/ourNewCerts /mail.ourdomain.com.crt should contain the certificate f

Re: [Dovecot] Changing SSL certificates - switching from self-signed to RapidSSL

2014-04-18 Thread Charles Marcus
Thanks Markus and Oscar... On 4/18/2014 3:29 PM, Markus Schönhaber wrote: Aside from the missing indirection (use ... = before) the documentation indicates that ssl_ca is only used for client certificate verification and has nothing to do with the certificate chain of your server certificate.

Re: [Dovecot] Changing SSL certificates - switching from self-signed to RapidSSL

2014-04-18 Thread Alessandro Menti
Il 18/04/2014 19:57, Charles Marcus ha scritto: Hi all, Ok, been wanting to do this for a while, and I after the Heartbleed fiasco, the boss finally agreed to let me buy some real certs... Until now, we've been using self-signed certs with the following dovecot config: ssl = required ssl_cert

Re: [Dovecot] Changing SSL certificates - switching from self-signed to RapidSSL

2014-04-18 Thread Markus Schönhaber
18.04.2014 19:57, Charles Marcus: > Ok, been wanting to do this for a while, and I after the Heartbleed > fiasco, the boss finally agreed to let me buy some real certs... > > Until now, we've been using self-signed certs with the following dovecot > config: > > ssl = required > ssl_cert = ssl

Re: [Dovecot] Changing SSL certificates - switching from self-signed to RapidSSL

2014-04-18 Thread Oscar del Rio
On 18/04/2014 1:57 PM, Charles Marcus wrote: But my current config doesn't have the _file for the variable names, and the wiki doesn't use them, so I'm planning on setting these to: ssl = required ssl_cert = /etc/ssl/ourNewCerts/mail.ourdomain.com.crt ssl_key = /etc/ssl/ourNewCerts/mail.ourd