Re: Changing IMAP separator - does it break things?

2020-10-14 Thread Markus Winkler
Hi Victor, On 14.10.20 04:36, Victor Sudakov wrote: Do you think I can change the hierarchy separator in the "inbox" namespace without breaking other clients and the mail layout on disk, losing mail etc? I personally would try to avoid such a change (really IMHO), especially if it's "only":

Re: Changing IMAP separator - does it break things?

2020-10-14 Thread Filip Hajný
14. 10. 2020 v 11:28, Markus Winkler : > > Hi Victor, > > On 14.10.20 04:36, Victor Sudakov wrote: >> Do you think I can change the hierarchy separator in the "inbox" >> namespace without breaking other clients and the mail layout on disk, >> losing mail etc? > > I personally would try to avoid

Re: Changing IMAP separator - does it break things?

2020-10-14 Thread Victor Sudakov
Filip Hajný wrote: > > > > On 14.10.20 04:36, Victor Sudakov wrote: > >> Do you think I can change the hierarchy separator in the "inbox" > >> namespace without breaking other clients and the mail layout on disk, > >> losing mail etc? > > > > I personally would try to avoid such a change (really

Re: Changing IMAP separator - does it break things?

2020-10-14 Thread Filip Hajný
14. 10. 2020 v 11:51, Victor Sudakov : > >> I had to do it with 10-20 live users and it went fine, nobody noticed >> anything (I made the change in the night hours just to be sure >> though). I had to go down and fix some erratic folder names that >> resulted from the botched separator handling on

Re: Changing IMAP separator - does it break things?

2020-10-14 Thread Victor Sudakov
Markus Winkler wrote: > > On 14.10.20 04:36, Victor Sudakov wrote: > > Do you think I can change the hierarchy separator in the "inbox" > > namespace without breaking other clients and the mail layout on disk, > > losing mail etc? > > I personally would try to avoid such a change (really IMHO), e

Re: Changing IMAP separator - does it break things?

2020-10-14 Thread Victor Sudakov
Filip Hajný wrote: > > > >> I had to do it with 10-20 live users and it went fine, nobody noticed > >> anything (I made the change in the night hours just to be sure > >> though). I had to go down and fix some erratic folder names that > >> resulted from the botched separator handling on some macO

Re: Changing IMAP separator - does it break things?

2020-10-14 Thread Sami Ketola
> On 14. Oct 2020, at 12.51, Victor Sudakov wrote: > > Those Mac clients who do not use nested folders do not seem to be > affected. That is, I've already suggested to the Mac Mail user that he > start Thunderbird, move all his mailboxes into the IMAP root folder, and > then go on using Mac Ma

Re: Changing IMAP separator - does it break things?

2020-10-14 Thread Markus Winkler
Hi Victor, On 14.10.20 11:51, Victor Sudakov wrote: Did it change anything on Dovecot disk/storage or is the IMAP separator just "virtual" - ephemeral ? just for the for the sake of completeness: there is a difference between the hierarchy separator (for the mailbox name) and the layout separ

Re: Changing IMAP separator - does it break things?

2020-10-14 Thread Markus Winkler
On 14.10.20 11:57, Victor Sudakov wrote: Besides that: changing the hierarchy separator is generally possible. But you schould try and check that with a test system to prevent problems with your productive environment and all the other users. I was hoping someone had already done that and I co

Re: Changing IMAP separator - does it break things?

2020-10-14 Thread @lbutlr
On 13 Oct 2020, at 20:36, Victor Sudakov wrote: > I am using Dovecot 2.3.4.1 with maildirs. Just found out that MacOS Mail > clients cannot work with nested folders, presumably because the MacOS > Mail does not understand "." as the IMAP separator. This is not correct. Mac Mail has no problems wi

Re: Changing IMAP separator - does it break things?

2020-10-14 Thread @lbutlr
On 14 Oct 2020, at 04:24, Sami Ketola wrote: > On 14. Oct 2020, at 12.51, Victor Sudakov wrote: >> Those Mac clients who do not use nested folders do not seem to be >> affected. That is, I've already suggested to the Mac Mail user that he >> start Thunderbird, move all his mailboxes into the IMAP

Re: Changing IMAP separator - does it break things?

2020-10-14 Thread Sami Ketola
> On 14. Oct 2020, at 14.20, @lbutlr wrote: > > On 14 Oct 2020, at 04:24, Sami Ketola wrote: >> On 14. Oct 2020, at 12.51, Victor Sudakov wrote: >>> Those Mac clients who do not use nested folders do not seem to be >>> affected. That is, I've already suggested to the Mac Mail user that he >>

Re: Changing IMAP separator - does it break things?

2020-10-14 Thread Victor Sudakov
Filip Hajný wrote: > 14. 10. 2020 v 11:51, Victor Sudakov : > > > >> I had to do it with 10-20 live users and it went fine, nobody noticed > >> anything (I made the change in the night hours just to be sure > >> though). I had to go down and fix some erratic folder names that > >> resulted from th

Re: Changing IMAP separator - does it break things?

2020-10-14 Thread Victor Sudakov
@lbutlr wrote: > On 14 Oct 2020, at 04:24, Sami Ketola wrote: > > On 14. Oct 2020, at 12.51, Victor Sudakov wrote: > >> Those Mac clients who do not use nested folders do not seem to be > >> affected. That is, I've already suggested to the Mac Mail user that he > >> start Thunderbird, move all hi

Re: Changing IMAP separator - does it break things?

2020-10-14 Thread Victor Sudakov
@lbutlr wrote: > On 13 Oct 2020, at 20:36, Victor Sudakov wrote: > > I am using Dovecot 2.3.4.1 with maildirs. Just found out that MacOS Mail > > clients cannot work with nested folders, presumably because the MacOS > > Mail does not understand "." as the IMAP separator. > > This is not correct.

Re: Changing IMAP separator - does it break things?

2020-10-14 Thread Filip Hajný
14. 10. 2020 v 12:24, Sami Ketola : > >> On 14. Oct 2020, at 12.51, Victor Sudakov wrote: >> >> Those Mac clients who do not use nested folders do not seem to be >> affected. That is, I've already suggested to the Mac Mail user that he >> start Thunderbird, move all his mailboxes into the IMAP r

Re: Changing IMAP separator - does it break things?

2020-10-14 Thread Filip Hajný
14. 10. 2020 v 13:39, Sami Ketola : > >> On 14. Oct 2020, at 14.20, @lbutlr wrote: >> >> On 14 Oct 2020, at 04:24, Sami Ketola wrote: >>> On 14. Oct 2020, at 12.51, Victor Sudakov wrote: Those Mac clients who do not use nested folders do not seem to be affected. That is, I've already

Re: Changing IMAP separator - does it break things?

2020-10-14 Thread Markus Winkler
On 14.10.20 15:02, Victor Sudakov wrote: I was asking because the section "Hierarchy separators" in https://doc.dovecot.org/configuration_manual/namespace/ somewhat implies that However, changing the separator doesn’t change the on-disk “layout separator”. That's why I thought that the separato

Re: Changing IMAP separator - does it break things?

2020-10-14 Thread @lbutlr
On 14 Oct 2020, at 05:39, Sami Ketola wrote: >> On 14. Oct 2020, at 14.20, @lbutlr wrote: >> >> On 14 Oct 2020, at 04:24, Sami Ketola wrote: >>> On 14. Oct 2020, at 12.51, Victor Sudakov wrote: Those Mac clients who do not use nested folders do not seem to be affected. That is, I've

Re: Changing IMAP separator - does it break things?

2020-10-14 Thread @lbutlr
On 14 Oct 2020, at 12:37, @lbutlr wrote: > jeorachu I swear I typed hierarchy. -- "A synonym is a word you use when you can't spell the word you first thought of." - Burt Bacharach