Re: [Drakelist] R4B Audio Distortion

2012-03-11 Thread Steve Wedge
ll my computers have my signature with various pearls of wisdom appended thereto. -- From: "Garey Barrell" Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 11:20 AM To: "Steve Wedge" Cc: "Mike Bryce" ; "Randy WB4SPB" ;

Re: [Drakelist] R4B Audio Distortion

2012-03-10 Thread Garey Barrell
/4 "I can't complain, but sometimes I still do." - Joe Walsh If the above message appears, it came from Steve's Son of Laptop! - Original Message - From: "Garey Barrell" To: "Mike Bryce" Cc: "Randy WB4SPB" ; Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 10:2

Re: [Drakelist] R4B Audio Distortion

2012-03-10 Thread kc9cdt
e Cc: Randy WB4SPB ; drakelist Sent: Fri, Mar 9, 2012 11:16 pm Subject: Re: [Drakelist] R4B Audio Distortion I just wound up fixing an R-4C - and one of the things I did was to swap V4 and V6. That single exchange did more to reduce the noise in the receiver than anyting else I could have don

Re: [Drakelist] R4B Audio Distortion

2012-03-09 Thread Steve Wedge
"I can't complain, but sometimes I still do." - Joe Walsh If the above message appears, it came from Steve's Son of Laptop! - Original Message - From: "Garey Barrell" To: "Mike Bryce" Cc: "Randy WB4SPB" ; Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 10:21 P

Re: [Drakelist] R4B Audio Distortion

2012-03-09 Thread Garey Barrell
Mike - I think the problem is that 'new' tubes are 50 years old.. Even a few molecules of air a day adds up after that long. When Drake assembled the radios, the tubes were _really_ new!! The 6EH5 gets 'really' hot in normal operation, and perhaps the heat/cool cycles are harder on the meta

Re: [Drakelist] R4B Audio Distortion

2012-03-09 Thread Steve Wedge
ay, March 09, 2012 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [Drakelist] R4B Audio Distortion Update: resolved, and another gold star for Garey In early February, I asked for ideas after finding my R4B audio output stage running hot. Positive bias, climbing slowly to +3, would mysteriously appear on the gri

Re: [Drakelist] R4B Audio Distortion

2012-03-09 Thread Mike Bryce
I wonder. when drake assembled the radios, did they go through three or fours tubes per radio to get one that worked correctly? dosen't seem logical. And although you can't argue with the fact that the subing out the tube fixed the problem, I wonder if there is something hidden down somepl

Re: [Drakelist] R4B Audio Distortion

2012-03-09 Thread Randy WB4SPB
Altogether, I bought two 6EH5s and one 6CA5. I already had a spare 6EH5, so, considering those alone, I had to try three to get one. If I count the 6CA5 that I bought, I had to try four to get one. The 6CA5 IS very similar. Some sources do not even have the 6EH5 and refer you to 6CA5. The t

Re: [Drakelist] R4B Audio Distortion

2012-03-09 Thread kc9cdt
, Lee -Original Message- From: Randy WB4SPB To: drakelist Sent: Fri, Mar 9, 2012 1:33 pm Subject: Re: [Drakelist] R4B Audio Distortion Update: resolved, and another gold star for Garey In early February, I asked for ideas after finding my R4B audio output stage running hot. Positive

Re: [Drakelist] R4B Audio Distortion

2012-03-09 Thread Al Al
Out of curiosity, how many 6EH5 tubes did you have to go through to find a good one? Al, n7ioh Payson, Arizona, USA On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Randy WB4SPB wrote: > Update: resolved, and another gold star for Garey > > In early February, I asked for ideas after finding my R4B audio outp

Re: [Drakelist] R4B Audio Distortion

2012-03-09 Thread Randy WB4SPB
Update: resolved, and another gold star for Garey In early February, I asked for ideas after finding my R4B audio output stage running hot. Positive bias, climbing slowly to +3, would mysteriously appear on the grid after a few minutes of operation, and the audio became distorted. Cooling t

Re: [Drakelist] R4B audio distortion

2012-02-10 Thread Randy WB4SPB
Thanks Ron and Garey. 73, Randy WB4SPB - Original Message - From: "Ron" To: "Randy WB4SPB" Cc: Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [Drakelist] R4B audio distortion Randy, I have had excellent luck with www.radiotubesupply.com/ Roy seems to k

Re: [Drakelist] R4B audio distortion

2012-02-10 Thread Ron
/12, Garey Barrell wrote: > From: Garey Barrell > Subject: Re: [Drakelist] R4B audio distortion > To: "Randy WB4SPB" > Cc: drakelist@zerobeat.net > Date: Friday, February 10, 2012, 2:54 PM > Randy - > > OK.  Well not all 'new' tubes are 'good'

Re: [Drakelist] R4B audio distortion

2012-02-10 Thread Garey Barrell
y WB4SPB - Original Message - From: "Garey Barrell" To: "Randy WB4SPB" Cc: Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 5:30 AM Subject: Re: [Drakelist] R4B audio distortion Randy - Sounds like a classic case of a 'gassy' (grid emission) tube. Replace it! 73, Garey

Re: [Drakelist] R4B audio distortion

2012-02-10 Thread Randy WB4SPB
of the imagination. Where do you like to buy tubes? 73, Randy WB4SPB - Original Message - From: "Garey Barrell" To: "Randy WB4SPB" Cc: Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 5:30 AM Subject: Re: [Drakelist] R4B audio distortion Randy - Sounds like a classic cas

Re: [Drakelist] R4B audio distortion

2012-02-10 Thread Garey Barrell
Randy - Sounds like a classic case of a 'gassy' (grid emission) tube. Replace it! 73, Garey - K4OAH Glen Allen, VA Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs Randy WB4SPB wrote: Hi folks, I've owned my beloved R4B since the mid-70's. From about 1985 until 200

Re: [Drakelist] R4B audio distortion

2012-02-10 Thread Randy WB4SPB
ginal Message- From: Richard Knoppow <1oldle...@ix.netcom.com> To: Randy WB4SPB ; drakelist Sent: Fri, Feb 10, 2012 12:27 am Subject: Re: [Drakelist] R4B audio distortion A look at the schematic indicates that you have hit all the usual suspects. So, what else could cause

Re: [Drakelist] R4B audio distortion

2012-02-09 Thread K9sqg
- From: Richard Knoppow <1oldle...@ix.netcom.com> To: Randy WB4SPB ; drakelist Sent: Fri, Feb 10, 2012 12:27 am Subject: Re: [Drakelist] R4B audio distortion A look at the schematic indicates that you have hit all the usual suspects. So, what else could cause the control grid voltage

Re: [Drakelist] R4B audio distortion

2012-02-09 Thread Richard Knoppow
ebruary 09, 2012 8:53 PM Subject: [Drakelist] R4B audio distortion Hi folks, I've owned my beloved R4B since the mid-70's. From about 1985 until 2000, it was stored while I got busy with job/family. I used it again for several months in 2002 and 2003, and I didn't notice any

[Drakelist] R4B audio distortion

2012-02-09 Thread Randy WB4SPB
Hi folks, I've owned my beloved R4B since the mid-70's. From about 1985 until 2000, it was stored while I got busy with job/family. I used it again for several months in 2002 and 2003, and I didn't notice anything unusual. Now I am active again and want to use it full time, but I am hearing au