Re: [Drakelist] Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and drift-free modern radios

2011-08-28 Thread David
, III W5XU -Original Message- From: drakelist-boun...@zerobeat.net [mailto:drakelist-boun...@zerobeat.net] On Behalf Of Ron Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 4:24 AM To: drakel...@.zerobeat.net; Jim Shorney Subject: Re: [Drakelist] Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and drift-free modern radios I have to be

Re: [Drakelist] Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and drift-free modern radios

2011-08-26 Thread Jim Shorney
On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:31:25 -0700 (PDT), Ron wrote: >don't have the time to let the rig warm up for about 15 minutes before the net >or QSO is ready to start. I guess our definitions of manageable drift are different. 15 minutes is no big deal, and if I'm in that much of a hurry, I just deal

Re: [Drakelist] Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and drift-free modern radios

2011-08-26 Thread Ron
house is around 70 degrees. Same holds true for the B-line. The PTOs just seems to move around much slower when in the correct ambient temperature home. 73, Ron WD8SBB --- On Fri, 8/26/11, Jim Shorney wrote: > From: Jim Shorney > Subject: Re: [Drakelist] Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny

Re: [Drakelist] Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and drift-free modern radios

2011-08-26 Thread Jim Shorney
On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 08:59:20 -0400, Curt Nixon wrote: > In my IC 751, which >have used in the FMT's, I simply placed a small styrofoam "box" around >the ref crystal. I've got a DigiMax freq counter with an "oven". Now, DigiMax counters weren't the greatest, they were made to be cheap - I wouldn

Re: [Drakelist] Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and drift-free modern radios

2011-08-26 Thread Jim Shorney
On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 02:24:06 -0700 (PDT), Ron wrote: >the x-lock tends to make the drift w/i the TR7 manageable. No disrespect was meant. :) I've looked at these gadgets, and don't find them necessary. IMO a TR-7 that is drifting unmanageably is broken, and needs repair. My interest is more to

Re: [Drakelist] Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and drift-free modern radios

2011-08-26 Thread Curt Nixon
This is pretty standard stuff in the FMT community. In my IC 751, which have used in the FMT's, I simply placed a small styrofoam "box" around the ref crystal. It is the temperature induced short term drift that is the problem, not the absolute accuracy. I can measure where it really is but

Re: [Drakelist] Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and drift-free modern radios

2011-08-26 Thread Ron
t notice it as much. No harm, no fowl. Just comments. 73 Ron WD8SBB --- On Thu, 8/25/11, Jim Shorney wrote: > From: Jim Shorney > Subject: [Drakelist] Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and drift-free modern > radios > To: "drakel...@.zerobeat.net" > Date: Thursday, A

Re: [Drakelist] Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and drift-free modern radios

2011-08-25 Thread Jim Shorney
On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 21:19:39 -0400, Garey Barrell wrote: >Nothing funnier than a bunch of SSB types sitting on 3975.00 MHz (or so >they think!) and spend >hours fighting over who's transmitter is 150 Hz high, (or low,) when NONE of >them are actually on >3975.00!!! I was not aware tha

Re: [Drakelist] Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and drift-free modern radios

2011-08-25 Thread Garey Barrell
Jim - Nothing funnier than a bunch of SSB types sitting on 3975.00 MHz (or so they think!) and spend hours fighting over who's transmitter is 150 Hz high, (or low,) when NONE of them are actually on 3975.00!!! I was not aware that the FCC had changed us from ham bands to CB type channe

[Drakelist] Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and drift-free modern radios

2011-08-25 Thread Jim Shorney
Some days I am more easily amused than other days. http://www.k0to.us/HAM/FT1000MP/Temperature%20Stabilized%20FT1000MP%20REF%20oscillator_files/Temperature%20Stabilized%20FT1000MP%20REF%20oscillator.htm What led me to the above link was a discussion of drift in the IC-706 radios on another list