Re: gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-04-06 Thread Rob Clark
On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 10:04 AM Michel Dänzer wrote: > > On 2020-04-06 6:34 p.m., Rob Clark wrote: > > > > The ideal thing would be to be able to click any jobs that we want to > > run, say "arm64_a630_gles31", and for gitlab to realize that it needs > > to automatically trigger dependencies of th

Re: gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-04-06 Thread Michel Dänzer
On 2020-04-06 6:34 p.m., Rob Clark wrote: > > The ideal thing would be to be able to click any jobs that we want to > run, say "arm64_a630_gles31", and for gitlab to realize that it needs > to automatically trigger dependencies of that job (meson-arm64, and > arm_build+arm_test). But not sure if t

Re: [Mesa-dev] [Intel-gfx] gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-04-06 Thread Rob Clark
On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 8:43 AM Adam Jackson wrote: > > On Sat, 2020-04-04 at 08:11 -0700, Rob Clark wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 7:12 AM Michel Dänzer wrote: > > > On 2020-03-01 6:46 a.m., Marek Olšák wrote: > > > > For Mesa, we could run CI only when Marge pushes, so that it's a > > > > st

Re: [Mesa-dev] [Intel-gfx] gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-04-06 Thread Adam Jackson
On Sat, 2020-04-04 at 08:11 -0700, Rob Clark wrote: > On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 7:12 AM Michel Dänzer wrote: > > On 2020-03-01 6:46 a.m., Marek Olšák wrote: > > > For Mesa, we could run CI only when Marge pushes, so that it's a strictly > > > pre-merge CI. > > > > Thanks for the suggestion! I implem

Re: [Mesa-dev] [Intel-gfx] gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-04-06 Thread Andreas Bergmeier
The problem of data transfer costs is not new in Cloud environments. At work we usually just opt for paying for it since dev time is scarser. For private projects though, I opt for aggressive (remote) caching. So you can setup a global cache in Google Cloud Storage and more local caches wherever yo

Re: [Mesa-dev] [Intel-gfx] gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-04-06 Thread Peter Hutterer
On Sat, Apr 04, 2020 at 08:11:23AM -0700, Rob Clark wrote: > On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 7:12 AM Michel Dänzer wrote: > > > > On 2020-03-01 6:46 a.m., Marek Olšák wrote: > > > For Mesa, we could run CI only when Marge pushes, so that it's a strictly > > > pre-merge CI. > > > > Thanks for the suggestion

Re: [Mesa-dev] [Intel-gfx] gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-04-06 Thread Nicolas Dufresne
Le samedi 04 avril 2020 à 15:55 +0200, Andreas Bergmeier a écrit : > The problem of data transfer costs is not new in Cloud environments. At work > we usually just opt for paying for it since dev time is scarser. For private > projects though, I opt for aggressive (remote) caching. > So you can s

Re: [Mesa-dev] [Intel-gfx] gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-04-06 Thread Peter Hutterer
On Sat, Apr 04, 2020 at 11:16:08AM -0700, Rob Clark wrote: > On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 10:47 AM Nicolas Dufresne wrote: > > > > Le samedi 04 avril 2020 à 08:11 -0700, Rob Clark a écrit : > > > On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 7:12 AM Michel Dänzer wrote: > > > > On 2020-03-01 6:46 a.m., Marek Olšák wrote: > >

Re: [Mesa-dev] [Intel-gfx] gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-04-06 Thread Nicolas Dufresne
Le samedi 04 avril 2020 à 08:11 -0700, Rob Clark a écrit : > On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 7:12 AM Michel Dänzer wrote: > > On 2020-03-01 6:46 a.m., Marek Olšák wrote: > > > For Mesa, we could run CI only when Marge pushes, so that it's a strictly > > > pre-merge CI. > > > > Thanks for the suggestion! I

Re: [Mesa-dev] [Intel-gfx] gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-04-04 Thread Rob Clark
On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 11:41 AM Rob Clark wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 11:16 AM Rob Clark wrote: > > > > On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 10:47 AM Nicolas Dufresne > > wrote: > > > > > > Le samedi 04 avril 2020 à 08:11 -0700, Rob Clark a écrit : > > > > On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 7:12 AM Michel Dänzer

Re: [Mesa-dev] [Intel-gfx] gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-04-04 Thread Rob Clark
On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 11:16 AM Rob Clark wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 10:47 AM Nicolas Dufresne wrote: > > > > Le samedi 04 avril 2020 à 08:11 -0700, Rob Clark a écrit : > > > On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 7:12 AM Michel Dänzer wrote: > > > > On 2020-03-01 6:46 a.m., Marek Olšák wrote: > > > > >

Re: [Mesa-dev] [Intel-gfx] gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-04-04 Thread Rob Clark
On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 10:47 AM Nicolas Dufresne wrote: > > Le samedi 04 avril 2020 à 08:11 -0700, Rob Clark a écrit : > > On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 7:12 AM Michel Dänzer wrote: > > > On 2020-03-01 6:46 a.m., Marek Olšák wrote: > > > > For Mesa, we could run CI only when Marge pushes, so that it's a

Re: [Mesa-dev] [Intel-gfx] gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-04-04 Thread Rob Clark
On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 7:12 AM Michel Dänzer wrote: > > On 2020-03-01 6:46 a.m., Marek Olšák wrote: > > For Mesa, we could run CI only when Marge pushes, so that it's a strictly > > pre-merge CI. > > Thanks for the suggestion! I implemented something like this for Mesa: > > https://gitlab.freedesk

Re: [Mesa-dev] [Intel-gfx] gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-04-03 Thread Michel Dänzer
On 2020-03-01 6:46 a.m., Marek Olšák wrote: > For Mesa, we could run CI only when Marge pushes, so that it's a strictly > pre-merge CI. Thanks for the suggestion! I implemented something like this for Mesa: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/4432 -- Earthling Michel Dänz

Re: [Mesa-dev] [Intel-gfx] gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-03-02 Thread Timur Kristóf
On Sat, 2020-02-29 at 14:46 -0500, Nicolas Dufresne wrote: > > > > 1. I think we should completely disable running the CI on MRs which > > are > > marked WIP. Speaking from personal experience, I usually make a lot > > of > > changes to my MRs before they are merged, so it is a waste of CI > > res

Re: [Mesa-dev] [Intel-gfx] gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-03-02 Thread Nicolas Dufresne
Le samedi 29 février 2020 à 15:54 -0600, Jason Ekstrand a écrit : > On Sat, Feb 29, 2020 at 3:47 PM Timur Kristóf wrote: > > On Sat, 2020-02-29 at 14:46 -0500, Nicolas Dufresne wrote: > > > > 1. I think we should completely disable running the CI on MRs which > > > > are > > > > marked WIP. Speaki

Re: [Intel-gfx] [Mesa-dev] gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-03-02 Thread Nicolas Dufresne
Hi Jason, I personally think the suggestion are still a relatively good brainstorm data for those implicated. Of course, those not implicated in the CI scripting itself, I'd say just keep in mind that nothing is black and white and every changes end-up being time consuming. Le dimanche 01 mars 20

Re: [Mesa-dev] [Intel-gfx] gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-03-02 Thread Nicolas Dufresne
Le dimanche 01 mars 2020 à 15:14 +0100, Michel Dänzer a écrit : > On 2020-02-29 8:46 p.m., Nicolas Dufresne wrote: > > Le samedi 29 février 2020 à 19:14 +0100, Timur Kristóf a écrit : > > > 1. I think we should completely disable running the CI on MRs which are > > > marked WIP. Speaking from perso

Re: [Mesa-dev] [Intel-gfx] gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-03-02 Thread Timur Kristóf
On Fri, 2020-02-28 at 10:43 +, Daniel Stone wrote: > On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 10:06, Erik Faye-Lund > wrote: > > On Fri, 2020-02-28 at 11:40 +0200, Lionel Landwerlin wrote: > > > Yeah, changes on vulkan drivers or backend compilers should be > > > fairly > > > sandboxed. > > > > > > We also hav

Re: [Mesa-dev] [Intel-gfx] gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-03-02 Thread Nicolas Dufresne
Le samedi 29 février 2020 à 19:14 +0100, Timur Kristóf a écrit : > On Fri, 2020-02-28 at 10:43 +, Daniel Stone wrote: > > On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 10:06, Erik Faye-Lund > > wrote: > > > On Fri, 2020-02-28 at 11:40 +0200, Lionel Landwerlin wrote: > > > > Yeah, changes on vulkan drivers or backend

Re: [Intel-gfx] [Mesa-dev] gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-03-01 Thread Jason Ekstrand
On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 2:49 PM Nicolas Dufresne wrote: > > Hi Jason, > > I personally think the suggestion are still a relatively good > brainstorm data for those implicated. Of course, those not implicated > in the CI scripting itself, I'd say just keep in mind that nothing is > black and white a

Re: [Intel-gfx] [Mesa-dev] gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-03-01 Thread Bridgman, John
X.Org development ; amd-gfx list ; wayland ; X.Org Foundation Board ; Xorg Members List ; dri-devel ; Mesa Dev ; intel-gfx ; Discussion of the development of and with GStreamer Subject: Re: [Intel-gfx] [Mesa-dev] gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services I don't think we nee

Re: [Intel-gfx] [Mesa-dev] gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-03-01 Thread Jason Ekstrand
I don't think we need to worry so much about the cost of CI that we need to micro-optimize to to get the minimal number of CI runs. We especially shouldn't if it begins to impact coffee quality, people's ability to merge patches in a timely manner, or visibility into what went wrong when CI fai

Re: [Mesa-dev] [Intel-gfx] gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-03-01 Thread Jacob Lifshay
One idea for Marge-bot (don't know if you already do this): Rust-lang has their bot (bors) automatically group together a few merge requests into a single merge commit, which it then tests, then, then the tests pass, it merges. This could help reduce CI runs to once a day (or some other rate). If t

Re: [Mesa-dev] [Intel-gfx] gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-03-01 Thread Michel Dänzer
On 2020-02-29 8:46 p.m., Nicolas Dufresne wrote: > Le samedi 29 février 2020 à 19:14 +0100, Timur Kristóf a écrit : >> >> 1. I think we should completely disable running the CI on MRs which are >> marked WIP. Speaking from personal experience, I usually make a lot of >> changes to my MRs before the

Re: [Mesa-dev] [Intel-gfx] gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-02-29 Thread Marek Olšák
For Mesa, we could run CI only when Marge pushes, so that it's a strictly pre-merge CI. Marek On Sat., Feb. 29, 2020, 17:20 Nicolas Dufresne, wrote: > Le samedi 29 février 2020 à 15:54 -0600, Jason Ekstrand a écrit : > > On Sat, Feb 29, 2020 at 3:47 PM Timur Kristóf > wrote: > > > On Sat, 2020

Re: [Mesa-dev] [Intel-gfx] gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-02-29 Thread Jason Ekstrand
On Sat, Feb 29, 2020 at 3:47 PM Timur Kristóf wrote: > > On Sat, 2020-02-29 at 14:46 -0500, Nicolas Dufresne wrote: > > > > > > 1. I think we should completely disable running the CI on MRs which > > > are > > > marked WIP. Speaking from personal experience, I usually make a lot > > > of > > > cha

Re: [Intel-gfx] [Mesa-dev] gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-02-29 Thread Jason Ekstrand
On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 11:00 AM Rob Clark wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 3:43 AM Michel Dänzer wrote: > > > > On 2020-02-28 10:28 a.m., Erik Faye-Lund wrote: > > > > > > We could also do stuff like reducing the amount of tests we run on each > > > commit, and punt some testing to a per-weeke

Re: [Mesa-dev] [Intel-gfx] gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-02-29 Thread Nuritzi Sanchez
Hi All, I know there's been a lot of discussion already, but I wanted to respond to Daniel's original post. I joined GitLab earlier this month as their new Open Source Program Manager [1] and wanted to introduce myself here since I’ll be involved from the GitLab side as we work together to probl

Re: [Mesa-dev] [Intel-gfx] gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-02-29 Thread Erik Faye-Lund
On Fri, 2020-02-28 at 10:43 +, Daniel Stone wrote: > On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 10:06, Erik Faye-Lund > wrote: > > On Fri, 2020-02-28 at 11:40 +0200, Lionel Landwerlin wrote: > > > Yeah, changes on vulkan drivers or backend compilers should be > > > fairly > > > sandboxed. > > > > > > We also hav

Re: gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-02-29 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Friday 2020-02-28 08:59, Daniel Stone wrote: > >I believe that in January, we had $2082 of network cost (almost >entirely egress; ingress is basically free) and $1750 of >cloud-storage cost (almost all of which was download). That's based >on 16TB of cloud-storage (CI artifacts, container image

Re: [Mesa-dev] [Intel-gfx] gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-02-29 Thread Erik Faye-Lund
On Fri, 2020-02-28 at 10:47 +0100, Daniel Vetter wrote: > On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 10:29 AM Erik Faye-Lund > wrote: > > On Fri, 2020-02-28 at 13:37 +1000, Dave Airlie wrote: > > > On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 07:27, Daniel Vetter < > > > daniel.vet...@ffwll.ch> > > > wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > >

Re: [Mesa-dev] [Intel-gfx] gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-02-29 Thread Erik Faye-Lund
On Fri, 2020-02-28 at 11:40 +0200, Lionel Landwerlin wrote: > On 28/02/2020 11:28, Erik Faye-Lund wrote: > > On Fri, 2020-02-28 at 13:37 +1000, Dave Airlie wrote: > > > On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 07:27, Daniel Vetter < > > > daniel.vet...@ffwll.ch> > > > wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > You migh

Re: [Mesa-dev] [Intel-gfx] gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-02-29 Thread Erik Faye-Lund
On Fri, 2020-02-28 at 13:37 +1000, Dave Airlie wrote: > On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 07:27, Daniel Vetter > wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > You might have read the short take in the X.org board meeting > > minutes > > already, here's the long version. > > > > The good news: gitlab.fd.o has become very popu

Re: [Mesa-dev] [Intel-gfx] gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-02-28 Thread Daniel Vetter
On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 9:31 PM Dave Airlie wrote: > > On Sat, 29 Feb 2020 at 05:34, Eric Anholt wrote: > > > > On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 12:48 AM Dave Airlie wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 18:18, Daniel Stone wrote: > > > > > > > > On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 03:38, Dave Airlie wrote: > >

Re: gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-02-28 Thread Matt Turner
On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 12:00 AM Daniel Stone wrote: > > Hi Matt, > > On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 at 23:45, Matt Turner wrote: > > We're paying 75K USD for the bandwidth to transfer data from the > > GitLab cloud instance. i.e., for viewing the https site, for > > cloning/updating git repos, and for down

Re: [Mesa-dev] [Intel-gfx] gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-02-28 Thread Dave Airlie
On Sat, 29 Feb 2020 at 05:34, Eric Anholt wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 12:48 AM Dave Airlie wrote: > > > > On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 18:18, Daniel Stone wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 03:38, Dave Airlie wrote: > > > > b) we probably need to take a large step back here. > > > > > >

Re: [Mesa-dev] [Intel-gfx] gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-02-28 Thread Eric Anholt
On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 12:48 AM Dave Airlie wrote: > > On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 18:18, Daniel Stone wrote: > > > > On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 03:38, Dave Airlie wrote: > > > b) we probably need to take a large step back here. > > > > > > Look at this from a sponsor POV, why would I give X.org/fd.o >

Re: [Intel-gfx] gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-02-28 Thread Kristian Høgsberg
On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 7:38 PM Dave Airlie wrote: > > On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 07:27, Daniel Vetter wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > You might have read the short take in the X.org board meeting minutes > > already, here's the long version. > > > > The good news: gitlab.fd.o has become very popular

Re: [Intel-gfx] [Mesa-dev] gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-02-28 Thread Rob Clark
On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 3:43 AM Michel Dänzer wrote: > > On 2020-02-28 10:28 a.m., Erik Faye-Lund wrote: > > > > We could also do stuff like reducing the amount of tests we run on each > > commit, and punt some testing to a per-weekend test-run or someting > > like that. We don't *need* to know ab

Re: [Mesa-dev] [Intel-gfx] gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-02-28 Thread Lionel Landwerlin
On 28/02/2020 13:46, Michel Dänzer wrote: On 2020-02-28 12:02 p.m., Erik Faye-Lund wrote: On Fri, 2020-02-28 at 10:43 +, Daniel Stone wrote: On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 10:06, Erik Faye-Lund wrote: On Fri, 2020-02-28 at 11:40 +0200, Lionel Landwerlin wrote: Yeah, changes on vulkan drivers or

Re: [Mesa-dev] [Intel-gfx] gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-02-28 Thread Michel Dänzer
On 2020-02-28 12:02 p.m., Erik Faye-Lund wrote: > On Fri, 2020-02-28 at 10:43 +, Daniel Stone wrote: >> On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 10:06, Erik Faye-Lund >> wrote: >>> On Fri, 2020-02-28 at 11:40 +0200, Lionel Landwerlin wrote: Yeah, changes on vulkan drivers or backend compilers should be >>>

Re: [Mesa-dev] [Intel-gfx] gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-02-28 Thread Michel Dänzer
On 2020-02-28 10:28 a.m., Erik Faye-Lund wrote: > > We could also do stuff like reducing the amount of tests we run on each > commit, and punt some testing to a per-weekend test-run or someting > like that. We don't *need* to know about every problem up front, just > the stuff that's about to be r

Re: gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-02-28 Thread Daniel Stone
Hi Jan, On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 10:09, Jan Engelhardt wrote: > On Friday 2020-02-28 08:59, Daniel Stone wrote: > >I believe that in January, we had $2082 of network cost (almost > >entirely egress; ingress is basically free) and $1750 of > >cloud-storage cost (almost all of which was download). Th

Re: [Mesa-dev] [Intel-gfx] gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-02-28 Thread Daniel Stone
On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 10:06, Erik Faye-Lund wrote: > On Fri, 2020-02-28 at 11:40 +0200, Lionel Landwerlin wrote: > > Yeah, changes on vulkan drivers or backend compilers should be > > fairly > > sandboxed. > > > > We also have tools that only work for intel stuff, that should never > > trigger an

Re: [Mesa-dev] [Intel-gfx] gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-02-28 Thread Lucas Stach
On Fr, 2020-02-28 at 10:47 +0100, Daniel Vetter wrote: > On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 10:29 AM Erik Faye-Lund > wrote: > > On Fri, 2020-02-28 at 13:37 +1000, Dave Airlie wrote: > > > On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 07:27, Daniel Vetter > > > wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > You might have read the short

Re: [Mesa-dev] [Intel-gfx] gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-02-28 Thread Daniel Vetter
On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 10:29 AM Erik Faye-Lund wrote: > > On Fri, 2020-02-28 at 13:37 +1000, Dave Airlie wrote: > > On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 07:27, Daniel Vetter > > wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > You might have read the short take in the X.org board meeting > > > minutes > > > already, here's t

Re: [Mesa-dev] [Intel-gfx] gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-02-28 Thread Lionel Landwerlin
On 28/02/2020 11:28, Erik Faye-Lund wrote: On Fri, 2020-02-28 at 13:37 +1000, Dave Airlie wrote: On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 07:27, Daniel Vetter wrote: Hi all, You might have read the short take in the X.org board meeting minutes already, here's the long version. The good news: gitlab.fd.o has b

Re: [Intel-gfx] gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-02-28 Thread Daniel Stone
On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 08:48, Dave Airlie wrote: > On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 18:18, Daniel Stone wrote: > > The last I looked, Google GCP / Amazon AWS / Azure were all pretty > > comparable in terms of what you get and what you pay for them. > > Obviously providers like Packet and Digital Ocean who

Re: [Intel-gfx] gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-02-28 Thread Dave Airlie
On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 18:18, Daniel Stone wrote: > > On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 03:38, Dave Airlie wrote: > > b) we probably need to take a large step back here. > > > > Look at this from a sponsor POV, why would I give X.org/fd.o > > sponsorship money that they are just giving straight to google to

Re: [Intel-gfx] gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-02-28 Thread Daniel Stone
On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 03:38, Dave Airlie wrote: > b) we probably need to take a large step back here. > > Look at this from a sponsor POV, why would I give X.org/fd.o > sponsorship money that they are just giving straight to google to pay > for hosting credits? Google are profiting in some minor

Re: gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-02-28 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 22:27:04 +0100 Daniel Vetter said: Might I suggest that given the kind of expenses detailed here, literally buying 1 - 4 reasonably specced boxes and hosting them at OSUOSL would be incredibly cheaper? (we (enlightenment.org) have been doing so for years on a single box). We f

Re: gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-02-28 Thread Daniel Stone
Hi Matt, On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 at 23:45, Matt Turner wrote: > We're paying 75K USD for the bandwidth to transfer data from the > GitLab cloud instance. i.e., for viewing the https site, for > cloning/updating git repos, and for downloading CI artifacts/images to > the testing machines (AFAIU). I b

Re: [Intel-gfx] gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-02-27 Thread Daniel Vetter
On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 4:38 AM Dave Airlie wrote: > > On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 07:27, Daniel Vetter wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > You might have read the short take in the X.org board meeting minutes > > already, here's the long version. > > > > The good news: gitlab.fd.o has become very popular

Re: [Intel-gfx] gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-02-27 Thread Dave Airlie
On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 07:27, Daniel Vetter wrote: > > Hi all, > > You might have read the short take in the X.org board meeting minutes > already, here's the long version. > > The good news: gitlab.fd.o has become very popular with our > communities, and is used extensively. This especially inclu

Re: [Mesa-dev] gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-02-27 Thread Tom Stellard
On 02/27/2020 05:00 PM, Tom Stellard wrote: > On 02/27/2020 01:27 PM, Daniel Vetter wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> You might have read the short take in the X.org board meeting minutes >> already, here's the long version. >> >> The good news: gitlab.fd.o has become very popular with our >> communities, an

Re: [Mesa-dev] gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-02-27 Thread Tom Stellard
On 02/27/2020 01:27 PM, Daniel Vetter wrote: > Hi all, > > You might have read the short take in the X.org board meeting minutes > already, here's the long version. > > The good news: gitlab.fd.o has become very popular with our > communities, and is used extensively. This especially includes all

Re: gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-02-27 Thread Luc Verhaegen
On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 10:27:04PM +0100, Daniel Vetter wrote: > Hi all, > > You might have read the short take in the X.org board meeting minutes > already, here's the long version. > > The good news: gitlab.fd.o has become very popular with our > communities, and is used extensively. This espec

Re: gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-02-27 Thread Matt Turner
On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 1:27 PM Daniel Vetter wrote: > > Hi all, > > You might have read the short take in the X.org board meeting minutes > already, here's the long version. > > The good news: gitlab.fd.o has become very popular with our > communities, and is used extensively. This especially inc

gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services

2020-02-27 Thread Daniel Vetter
Hi all, You might have read the short take in the X.org board meeting minutes already, here's the long version. The good news: gitlab.fd.o has become very popular with our communities, and is used extensively. This especially includes all the CI integration. Modern development process and tooling