On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 10:04 AM Michel Dänzer wrote:
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> On 2020-04-06 6:34 p.m., Rob Clark wrote:
> >
> > The ideal thing would be to be able to click any jobs that we want to
> > run, say "arm64_a630_gles31", and for gitlab to realize that it needs
> > to automatically trigger dependencies of th
On 2020-04-06 6:34 p.m., Rob Clark wrote:
>
> The ideal thing would be to be able to click any jobs that we want to
> run, say "arm64_a630_gles31", and for gitlab to realize that it needs
> to automatically trigger dependencies of that job (meson-arm64, and
> arm_build+arm_test). But not sure if t
On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 8:43 AM Adam Jackson wrote:
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> On Sat, 2020-04-04 at 08:11 -0700, Rob Clark wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 7:12 AM Michel Dänzer wrote:
> > > On 2020-03-01 6:46 a.m., Marek Olšák wrote:
> > > > For Mesa, we could run CI only when Marge pushes, so that it's a
> > > > st
On Sat, 2020-04-04 at 08:11 -0700, Rob Clark wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 7:12 AM Michel Dänzer wrote:
> > On 2020-03-01 6:46 a.m., Marek Olšák wrote:
> > > For Mesa, we could run CI only when Marge pushes, so that it's a strictly
> > > pre-merge CI.
> >
> > Thanks for the suggestion! I implem
The problem of data transfer costs is not new in Cloud environments. At
work we usually just opt for paying for it since dev time is scarser. For
private projects though, I opt for aggressive (remote) caching.
So you can setup a global cache in Google Cloud Storage and more local
caches wherever yo
On Sat, Apr 04, 2020 at 08:11:23AM -0700, Rob Clark wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 7:12 AM Michel Dänzer wrote:
> >
> > On 2020-03-01 6:46 a.m., Marek Olšák wrote:
> > > For Mesa, we could run CI only when Marge pushes, so that it's a strictly
> > > pre-merge CI.
> >
> > Thanks for the suggestion
Le samedi 04 avril 2020 à 15:55 +0200, Andreas Bergmeier a écrit :
> The problem of data transfer costs is not new in Cloud environments. At work
> we usually just opt for paying for it since dev time is scarser. For private
> projects though, I opt for aggressive (remote) caching.
> So you can s
On Sat, Apr 04, 2020 at 11:16:08AM -0700, Rob Clark wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 10:47 AM Nicolas Dufresne wrote:
> >
> > Le samedi 04 avril 2020 à 08:11 -0700, Rob Clark a écrit :
> > > On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 7:12 AM Michel Dänzer wrote:
> > > > On 2020-03-01 6:46 a.m., Marek Olšák wrote:
> >
Le samedi 04 avril 2020 à 08:11 -0700, Rob Clark a écrit :
> On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 7:12 AM Michel Dänzer wrote:
> > On 2020-03-01 6:46 a.m., Marek Olšák wrote:
> > > For Mesa, we could run CI only when Marge pushes, so that it's a strictly
> > > pre-merge CI.
> >
> > Thanks for the suggestion! I
On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 11:41 AM Rob Clark wrote:
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> On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 11:16 AM Rob Clark wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 10:47 AM Nicolas Dufresne
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Le samedi 04 avril 2020 à 08:11 -0700, Rob Clark a écrit :
> > > > On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 7:12 AM Michel Dänzer
On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 11:16 AM Rob Clark wrote:
>
> On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 10:47 AM Nicolas Dufresne wrote:
> >
> > Le samedi 04 avril 2020 à 08:11 -0700, Rob Clark a écrit :
> > > On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 7:12 AM Michel Dänzer wrote:
> > > > On 2020-03-01 6:46 a.m., Marek Olšák wrote:
> > > > >
On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 10:47 AM Nicolas Dufresne wrote:
>
> Le samedi 04 avril 2020 à 08:11 -0700, Rob Clark a écrit :
> > On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 7:12 AM Michel Dänzer wrote:
> > > On 2020-03-01 6:46 a.m., Marek Olšák wrote:
> > > > For Mesa, we could run CI only when Marge pushes, so that it's a
On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 7:12 AM Michel Dänzer wrote:
>
> On 2020-03-01 6:46 a.m., Marek Olšák wrote:
> > For Mesa, we could run CI only when Marge pushes, so that it's a strictly
> > pre-merge CI.
>
> Thanks for the suggestion! I implemented something like this for Mesa:
>
> https://gitlab.freedesk
On 2020-03-01 6:46 a.m., Marek Olšák wrote:
> For Mesa, we could run CI only when Marge pushes, so that it's a strictly
> pre-merge CI.
Thanks for the suggestion! I implemented something like this for Mesa:
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/4432
--
Earthling Michel Dänz
On Sat, 2020-02-29 at 14:46 -0500, Nicolas Dufresne wrote:
> >
> > 1. I think we should completely disable running the CI on MRs which
> > are
> > marked WIP. Speaking from personal experience, I usually make a lot
> > of
> > changes to my MRs before they are merged, so it is a waste of CI
> > res
Le samedi 29 février 2020 à 15:54 -0600, Jason Ekstrand a écrit :
> On Sat, Feb 29, 2020 at 3:47 PM Timur Kristóf wrote:
> > On Sat, 2020-02-29 at 14:46 -0500, Nicolas Dufresne wrote:
> > > > 1. I think we should completely disable running the CI on MRs which
> > > > are
> > > > marked WIP. Speaki
Hi Jason,
I personally think the suggestion are still a relatively good
brainstorm data for those implicated. Of course, those not implicated
in the CI scripting itself, I'd say just keep in mind that nothing is
black and white and every changes end-up being time consuming.
Le dimanche 01 mars 20
Le dimanche 01 mars 2020 à 15:14 +0100, Michel Dänzer a écrit :
> On 2020-02-29 8:46 p.m., Nicolas Dufresne wrote:
> > Le samedi 29 février 2020 à 19:14 +0100, Timur Kristóf a écrit :
> > > 1. I think we should completely disable running the CI on MRs which are
> > > marked WIP. Speaking from perso
On Fri, 2020-02-28 at 10:43 +, Daniel Stone wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 10:06, Erik Faye-Lund
> wrote:
> > On Fri, 2020-02-28 at 11:40 +0200, Lionel Landwerlin wrote:
> > > Yeah, changes on vulkan drivers or backend compilers should be
> > > fairly
> > > sandboxed.
> > >
> > > We also hav
Le samedi 29 février 2020 à 19:14 +0100, Timur Kristóf a écrit :
> On Fri, 2020-02-28 at 10:43 +, Daniel Stone wrote:
> > On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 10:06, Erik Faye-Lund
> > wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2020-02-28 at 11:40 +0200, Lionel Landwerlin wrote:
> > > > Yeah, changes on vulkan drivers or backend
On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 2:49 PM Nicolas Dufresne wrote:
>
> Hi Jason,
>
> I personally think the suggestion are still a relatively good
> brainstorm data for those implicated. Of course, those not implicated
> in the CI scripting itself, I'd say just keep in mind that nothing is
> black and white a
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Subject: Re: [Intel-gfx] [Mesa-dev] gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact
on services
I don't think we nee
I don't think we need to worry so much about the cost of CI that we need to
micro-optimize to to get the minimal number of CI runs. We especially
shouldn't if it begins to impact coffee quality, people's ability to merge
patches in a timely manner, or visibility into what went wrong when CI
fai
One idea for Marge-bot (don't know if you already do this):
Rust-lang has their bot (bors) automatically group together a few merge
requests into a single merge commit, which it then tests, then, then the
tests pass, it merges. This could help reduce CI runs to once a day (or
some other rate). If t
On 2020-02-29 8:46 p.m., Nicolas Dufresne wrote:
> Le samedi 29 février 2020 à 19:14 +0100, Timur Kristóf a écrit :
>>
>> 1. I think we should completely disable running the CI on MRs which are
>> marked WIP. Speaking from personal experience, I usually make a lot of
>> changes to my MRs before the
For Mesa, we could run CI only when Marge pushes, so that it's a strictly
pre-merge CI.
Marek
On Sat., Feb. 29, 2020, 17:20 Nicolas Dufresne,
wrote:
> Le samedi 29 février 2020 à 15:54 -0600, Jason Ekstrand a écrit :
> > On Sat, Feb 29, 2020 at 3:47 PM Timur Kristóf
> wrote:
> > > On Sat, 2020
On Sat, Feb 29, 2020 at 3:47 PM Timur Kristóf wrote:
>
> On Sat, 2020-02-29 at 14:46 -0500, Nicolas Dufresne wrote:
> > >
> > > 1. I think we should completely disable running the CI on MRs which
> > > are
> > > marked WIP. Speaking from personal experience, I usually make a lot
> > > of
> > > cha
On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 11:00 AM Rob Clark wrote:
>
> On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 3:43 AM Michel Dänzer wrote:
> >
> > On 2020-02-28 10:28 a.m., Erik Faye-Lund wrote:
> > >
> > > We could also do stuff like reducing the amount of tests we run on each
> > > commit, and punt some testing to a per-weeke
Hi All,
I know there's been a lot of discussion already, but I wanted to respond to
Daniel's original post.
I joined GitLab earlier this month as their new Open Source Program Manager
[1] and wanted to introduce myself here since I’ll be involved from the
GitLab side as we work together to probl
On Fri, 2020-02-28 at 10:43 +, Daniel Stone wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 10:06, Erik Faye-Lund
> wrote:
> > On Fri, 2020-02-28 at 11:40 +0200, Lionel Landwerlin wrote:
> > > Yeah, changes on vulkan drivers or backend compilers should be
> > > fairly
> > > sandboxed.
> > >
> > > We also hav
On Friday 2020-02-28 08:59, Daniel Stone wrote:
>
>I believe that in January, we had $2082 of network cost (almost
>entirely egress; ingress is basically free) and $1750 of
>cloud-storage cost (almost all of which was download). That's based
>on 16TB of cloud-storage (CI artifacts, container image
On Fri, 2020-02-28 at 10:47 +0100, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 10:29 AM Erik Faye-Lund
> wrote:
> > On Fri, 2020-02-28 at 13:37 +1000, Dave Airlie wrote:
> > > On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 07:27, Daniel Vetter <
> > > daniel.vet...@ffwll.ch>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > >
On Fri, 2020-02-28 at 11:40 +0200, Lionel Landwerlin wrote:
> On 28/02/2020 11:28, Erik Faye-Lund wrote:
> > On Fri, 2020-02-28 at 13:37 +1000, Dave Airlie wrote:
> > > On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 07:27, Daniel Vetter <
> > > daniel.vet...@ffwll.ch>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > You migh
On Fri, 2020-02-28 at 13:37 +1000, Dave Airlie wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 07:27, Daniel Vetter
> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > You might have read the short take in the X.org board meeting
> > minutes
> > already, here's the long version.
> >
> > The good news: gitlab.fd.o has become very popu
On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 9:31 PM Dave Airlie wrote:
>
> On Sat, 29 Feb 2020 at 05:34, Eric Anholt wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 12:48 AM Dave Airlie wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 18:18, Daniel Stone wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 03:38, Dave Airlie wrote:
> >
On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 12:00 AM Daniel Stone wrote:
>
> Hi Matt,
>
> On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 at 23:45, Matt Turner wrote:
> > We're paying 75K USD for the bandwidth to transfer data from the
> > GitLab cloud instance. i.e., for viewing the https site, for
> > cloning/updating git repos, and for down
On Sat, 29 Feb 2020 at 05:34, Eric Anholt wrote:
>
> On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 12:48 AM Dave Airlie wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 18:18, Daniel Stone wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 03:38, Dave Airlie wrote:
> > > > b) we probably need to take a large step back here.
> > > >
> >
On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 12:48 AM Dave Airlie wrote:
>
> On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 18:18, Daniel Stone wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 03:38, Dave Airlie wrote:
> > > b) we probably need to take a large step back here.
> > >
> > > Look at this from a sponsor POV, why would I give X.org/fd.o
>
On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 7:38 PM Dave Airlie wrote:
>
> On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 07:27, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > You might have read the short take in the X.org board meeting minutes
> > already, here's the long version.
> >
> > The good news: gitlab.fd.o has become very popular
On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 3:43 AM Michel Dänzer wrote:
>
> On 2020-02-28 10:28 a.m., Erik Faye-Lund wrote:
> >
> > We could also do stuff like reducing the amount of tests we run on each
> > commit, and punt some testing to a per-weekend test-run or someting
> > like that. We don't *need* to know ab
On 28/02/2020 13:46, Michel Dänzer wrote:
On 2020-02-28 12:02 p.m., Erik Faye-Lund wrote:
On Fri, 2020-02-28 at 10:43 +, Daniel Stone wrote:
On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 10:06, Erik Faye-Lund
wrote:
On Fri, 2020-02-28 at 11:40 +0200, Lionel Landwerlin wrote:
Yeah, changes on vulkan drivers or
On 2020-02-28 12:02 p.m., Erik Faye-Lund wrote:
> On Fri, 2020-02-28 at 10:43 +, Daniel Stone wrote:
>> On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 10:06, Erik Faye-Lund
>> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 2020-02-28 at 11:40 +0200, Lionel Landwerlin wrote:
Yeah, changes on vulkan drivers or backend compilers should be
>>>
On 2020-02-28 10:28 a.m., Erik Faye-Lund wrote:
>
> We could also do stuff like reducing the amount of tests we run on each
> commit, and punt some testing to a per-weekend test-run or someting
> like that. We don't *need* to know about every problem up front, just
> the stuff that's about to be r
Hi Jan,
On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 10:09, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
> On Friday 2020-02-28 08:59, Daniel Stone wrote:
> >I believe that in January, we had $2082 of network cost (almost
> >entirely egress; ingress is basically free) and $1750 of
> >cloud-storage cost (almost all of which was download). Th
On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 10:06, Erik Faye-Lund
wrote:
> On Fri, 2020-02-28 at 11:40 +0200, Lionel Landwerlin wrote:
> > Yeah, changes on vulkan drivers or backend compilers should be
> > fairly
> > sandboxed.
> >
> > We also have tools that only work for intel stuff, that should never
> > trigger an
On Fr, 2020-02-28 at 10:47 +0100, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 10:29 AM Erik Faye-Lund
> wrote:
> > On Fri, 2020-02-28 at 13:37 +1000, Dave Airlie wrote:
> > > On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 07:27, Daniel Vetter
> > > wrote:
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > You might have read the short
On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 10:29 AM Erik Faye-Lund
wrote:
>
> On Fri, 2020-02-28 at 13:37 +1000, Dave Airlie wrote:
> > On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 07:27, Daniel Vetter
> > wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > You might have read the short take in the X.org board meeting
> > > minutes
> > > already, here's t
On 28/02/2020 11:28, Erik Faye-Lund wrote:
On Fri, 2020-02-28 at 13:37 +1000, Dave Airlie wrote:
On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 07:27, Daniel Vetter
wrote:
Hi all,
You might have read the short take in the X.org board meeting
minutes
already, here's the long version.
The good news: gitlab.fd.o has b
On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 08:48, Dave Airlie wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 18:18, Daniel Stone wrote:
> > The last I looked, Google GCP / Amazon AWS / Azure were all pretty
> > comparable in terms of what you get and what you pay for them.
> > Obviously providers like Packet and Digital Ocean who
On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 18:18, Daniel Stone wrote:
>
> On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 03:38, Dave Airlie wrote:
> > b) we probably need to take a large step back here.
> >
> > Look at this from a sponsor POV, why would I give X.org/fd.o
> > sponsorship money that they are just giving straight to google to
On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 03:38, Dave Airlie wrote:
> b) we probably need to take a large step back here.
>
> Look at this from a sponsor POV, why would I give X.org/fd.o
> sponsorship money that they are just giving straight to google to pay
> for hosting credits? Google are profiting in some minor
On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 22:27:04 +0100 Daniel Vetter said:
Might I suggest that given the kind of expenses detailed here, literally buying
1 - 4 reasonably specced boxes and hosting them at OSUOSL would be incredibly
cheaper? (we (enlightenment.org) have been doing so for years on a single
box). We f
Hi Matt,
On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 at 23:45, Matt Turner wrote:
> We're paying 75K USD for the bandwidth to transfer data from the
> GitLab cloud instance. i.e., for viewing the https site, for
> cloning/updating git repos, and for downloading CI artifacts/images to
> the testing machines (AFAIU).
I b
On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 4:38 AM Dave Airlie wrote:
>
> On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 07:27, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > You might have read the short take in the X.org board meeting minutes
> > already, here's the long version.
> >
> > The good news: gitlab.fd.o has become very popular
On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 07:27, Daniel Vetter wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> You might have read the short take in the X.org board meeting minutes
> already, here's the long version.
>
> The good news: gitlab.fd.o has become very popular with our
> communities, and is used extensively. This especially inclu
On 02/27/2020 05:00 PM, Tom Stellard wrote:
> On 02/27/2020 01:27 PM, Daniel Vetter wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> You might have read the short take in the X.org board meeting minutes
>> already, here's the long version.
>>
>> The good news: gitlab.fd.o has become very popular with our
>> communities, an
On 02/27/2020 01:27 PM, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> You might have read the short take in the X.org board meeting minutes
> already, here's the long version.
>
> The good news: gitlab.fd.o has become very popular with our
> communities, and is used extensively. This especially includes all
On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 10:27:04PM +0100, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> You might have read the short take in the X.org board meeting minutes
> already, here's the long version.
>
> The good news: gitlab.fd.o has become very popular with our
> communities, and is used extensively. This espec
On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 1:27 PM Daniel Vetter wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> You might have read the short take in the X.org board meeting minutes
> already, here's the long version.
>
> The good news: gitlab.fd.o has become very popular with our
> communities, and is used extensively. This especially inc
Hi all,
You might have read the short take in the X.org board meeting minutes
already, here's the long version.
The good news: gitlab.fd.o has become very popular with our
communities, and is used extensively. This especially includes all the
CI integration. Modern development process and tooling
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