Re: [Dri-devel] ati rage 128 mobility (ibook2)

2002-02-01 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Fre, 2002-02-01 at 17:31, Mccary Brady wrote: > Michel Dänzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > On Fre, 2002-02-01 at 09:56, Mccary Brady wrote: > > > is there a specific reason why some of the rendering routines are > > > performed in software for the ati rage 128 mobility? when > > > xscreensa

RE: [Xpert]RE: [Dri-devel] Re: [GATOS]Re: Bugfix for br0ken DMA o nr128 andpossibly radeonDMA functions

2002-02-01 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Fre, 2002-02-01 at 20:37, Vladimir Dergachev wrote: > > Are you saying that progress stops with the inclusion of the driver into > the kernel tree ? Backward compatibility doesn't mean there's no progress. > > > So, it is possible to make this change work, but I do not see this worth > > >

RE: [Xpert]RE: [Dri-devel] Re: [GATOS]Re: Bugfix for br0ken DMA o n r128 andpossibly radeonDMA functions

2002-02-01 Thread Vladimir Dergachev
On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Gareth Hughes wrote: > > I can't believe I am hearing this. The major benifit of free software is > > that if there is a new and better design you can try it out and then > > everyone can upgrade. It's not as if we are charging them money they way > > Microsoft does. > > > >

[Dri-devel] Re: Bugfix for br0ken DMA on r128 and possibly radeon DMA ***functions

2002-02-01 Thread --friar
>Good advice :)) Sometimes I do that, but I generally prefer to leave more >when in doubt. I do not think there is anyone left who reads mail over >2400 baud modem. > > Vladimir Dergachev Just to point out, I and any other people using cellular modem systems for handheld

RE: [Xpert]RE: [Dri-devel] Re: [GATOS]Re: Bugfix for br0ken DMA o n r128 andpossibly radeonDMA functions

2002-02-01 Thread Gareth Hughes
> I can't believe I am hearing this. The major benifit of free software is > that if there is a new and better design you can try it out and then > everyone can upgrade. It's not as if we are charging them money they way > Microsoft does. > > Are you saying that progress stops with the inclusion

RE: [Xpert]RE: [Dri-devel] Re: [GATOS]Re: Bugfix for br0ken DMA on r128 andpossibly radeonDMA functions

2002-02-01 Thread Vladimir Dergachev
On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Gareth Hughes wrote: > > That's too bad because this will imply a _lot_ of hair in the drivers. > > That's the way it has to be, for the DRM code to remain in the stock > kernel distro. Linus has make this crystal clear. > > > The fact is that we have a driver split several

[Dri-devel] Re: Bugfix for br0ken DMA on r128 and possibly radeon DMA functions

2002-02-01 Thread Vladimir Dergachev
On 1 Feb 2002, Michel [ISO-8859-1] Dänzer wrote: > On Mit, 2002-01-30 at 15:26, Vladimir Dergachev wrote: > > > > On 30 Jan 2002, Michel [ISO-8859-1] Dänzer wrote: > > > > > On Mit, 2002-01-30 at 10:32, Vladimir Dergachev wrote: > > > > > > > > On 30 Jan 2002, Michel [ISO-8859-1] Dänzer wrote:

RE: [Xpert]RE: [Dri-devel] Re: [GATOS]Re: Bugfix for br0ken DMA on r128 andpossibly radeonDMA functions

2002-02-01 Thread Gareth Hughes
> That's too bad because this will imply a _lot_ of hair in the drivers. That's the way it has to be, for the DRM code to remain in the stock kernel distro. Linus has make this crystal clear. > The fact is that we have a driver split several ways: 3 portions from > XFree tree (2d, 2d and drm),

Re: [Xpert]RE: [Dri-devel] Re: [GATOS]Re: Bugfix for br0ken DMA onr128 andpossibly radeonDMA functions

2002-02-01 Thread Vladimir Dergachev
On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Kevin E Martin wrote: > On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 10:43:20PM -0500, Vladimir Dergachev wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Jens Owen wrote: > > > > > Vladimir Dergachev wrote: > > > > > > > Also, I can make drm driver work nice with older 2d drivers - as soon as > > > > so

Re: [Dri-devel] ati rage 128 mobility (ibook2)

2002-02-01 Thread Mccary Brady
Michel Dänzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Fre, 2002-02-01 at 09:56, Mccary Brady wrote: > > is there a specific reason why some of the rendering routines are performed in > > software for the ati rage 128 mobility? when xscreensaver loads a gl screen > > hack on my ibook2, it definitely looks

[Dri-devel] Re: Bugfix for br0ken DMA on r128 and possibly radeon DMA functions

2002-02-01 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Mit, 2002-01-30 at 15:26, Vladimir Dergachev wrote: > > On 30 Jan 2002, Michel [ISO-8859-1] Dänzer wrote: > > > On Mit, 2002-01-30 at 10:32, Vladimir Dergachev wrote: > > > > > > On 30 Jan 2002, Michel [ISO-8859-1] Dänzer wrote: > > > > > > > > Btw, while I've been sleeping I thought how we

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: [GATOS]Re: Bugfix for br0ken DMA on r128 andpossibly radeonDMA functions

2002-02-01 Thread Karl Lessard
I think this discussion is really interesting cause it discuss about the biggest problem the DRI project has to deal with: compatibility. The ideas Ian suggested here may fix the problem, but may also create a big confusion in the driver code. I'm just thinking about what will happened after mul

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Re: [Dri-devel] ati rage 128 mobility (ibook2)

2002-02-01 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Fre, 2002-02-01 at 09:56, Mccary Brady wrote: > is there a specific reason why some of the rendering routines are performed in > software for the ati rage 128 mobility? when xscreensaver loads a gl screen > hack on my ibook2, it definitely looks sluggish ... and i want fast gl screen > hacks!

[Dri-devel] ati rage 128 mobility (ibook2)

2002-02-01 Thread Mccary Brady
is there a specific reason why some of the rendering routines are performed in software for the ati rage 128 mobility? when xscreensaver loads a gl screen hack on my ibook2, it definitely looks sluggish ... and i want fast gl screen hacks! i guess what im really asking, is can i configure my syst