On Monday 22 October 2001 23:04, Derrik Pates wrote:
> Not to burst anyone's bubble here, guys, but shades of GGI going on. Do
> you guys really want to dredge up all this debate, covering (pretty much)
> the same points you guys are addressing here? I'm not saying your ideas
> are bad, I'm not p
On Mon, 22 Oct 2001, Sottek, Matthew J wrote:
> The basic idea in the framebuffer is fine, but the implementation
> isn't very good. It is more grown out of console functions rather
> than starting from a graphics driver perspective.
Not to burst anyone's bubble here, guys, but shades of GGI goi
>> #1 A kernel API for mode setting, mmaping of the framebuffer and
>> video memory management.
>Truely needed. Something like the Linux version of the VESA
>interface. I think the Linux framebuffer project took this thing
>as their basic idea.
The basic idea in the framebuffer is fine, but the
> From: Sottek, Matthew J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
[...]
> #1 A kernel API for mode setting, mmaping of the framebuffer and
> video memory management.
Truely needed. Something like the Linux version of the VESA interface.
I think the Linux framebuffer project took this thing as their basic idea
>>I'm really concerned about your answer. There was a whole thread
>>on the linux-kernel mailing list about the hypothesis of the
>>release of an X-Kernel, a kernel which would include built-in
>>desktop support. Most people answered, no, this would be
>>ridiculous, other said, yes, but hardware m
On Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 05:48:56AM +0100, MichaelM wrote:
> Would you consider it a good idea to make DRI part of the source of a
kernel? Direct 3d graphics supported from the boot sequence.
>
> I'm really concerned about your answer. There was a whole thread on
the linux-kernel mailing list
On Mon, 22 Oct 2001, Peter Surda wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 21, 2001 at 10:01:33PM -0700, Jeffrey W. Baker wrote:
> > Send us a mail that isn't from a windows machine, and you might get an
> > interesting discussion. As it stands, I can barely tell what you are going
> > on about.
> Dude, I think t
On Mon, 22 Oct 2001, Peter Surda wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 05:48:56AM +0100, MichaelM wrote:
> >Would you consider it a good idea to make DRI part of the source of a
> >kernel? Direct 3d graphics supported from the boot sequence.
> Hmm I thought DRI is part of the kernel? Perhaps y
> we move the whole driver structure to kernel? Drivers for every other device
Not really.
> STRUCTURE. For a great UI, we need DMA, vsync and devices communicating with
> each other directly or with little overhead. Why insist on doing this in
A video driver has to have extremely good latency
On Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 02:27:23AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> The biggest reason against this is that X (as it is now) support not only
> Linux but many other OSes: in particular BSD(s) and Solaris. Moving
> stuff into Linux kernel creates a fork of the drivers which is
> undesirable..
That
On Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 05:48:56AM +0100, MichaelM wrote:
>Would you consider it a good idea to make DRI part of the source of a
>kernel? Direct 3d graphics supported from the boot sequence.
Hmm I thought DRI is part of the kernel? Perhaps you meant the DRM part of it.
>I'm really con
On Mon, 22 Oct 2001, MichaelM wrote:
> Would you consider it a good idea to make DRI part of the source of a kernel? Direct
>3d graphics supported from the boot sequence.
>
> I'm really concerned about your answer. There was a whole thread on the linux-kernel
>mailing list about the hypothes
On Sun, Oct 21, 2001 at 10:01:33PM -0700, Jeffrey W. Baker wrote:
> Send us a mail that isn't from a windows machine, and you might get an
> interesting discussion. As it stands, I can barely tell what you are going
> on about.
Dude, I think that Outlook is crap too, I had to administer a couple
On Mon, 22 Oct 2001, MichaelM wrote:
> Would you consider it a good idea to blah blah blah?
Send us a mail that isn't from a windows machine, and you might get an
interesting discussion. As it stands, I can barely tell what you are
going on about.
-jwb
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