Re: [Dri-devel] Mach64

2001-11-21 Thread Frank C . Earl
On Tuesday 20 November 2001 11:27 pm, you wrote: Yep, that's correct. Had to deal with missing and/or conflicting info to boot... This sounds strangely familiar... :-) -- Frank Earl ___ Dri-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Dri-devel] Radeon 7500

2001-11-21 Thread Diarmuid Drew
I've just got a new Radeon 7500. I've tried to get it working under XFree86 4.1. I get a problem (EE) No devices detected. I assume this is because the 7500 is not supported as yet. I've downloaded and compiled the CSV tree and stil no joy. XFree reports (--) PCI:*(1:0:0) ATI unknown chipset

[Dri-devel] ATI driver for Fire 8700/8800

2001-11-21 Thread Michael Born
Hi all, these cards have Linux32 driver (written at www.ati.com) and base AFAIK on the Radeon 7500/8500 GPU. So do these drivers give TL Hardware support for OpenGL on new ATI cards? I would like to buy a Radeon 7500 with DVI/TV/VGA out. Anybody has these drivers? Best Regards Michael

RE: [Dri-devel] ATI driver for Fire 8700/8800

2001-11-21 Thread Alexander Stohr
Hey, did these ATI FireGL products already hit the stores now? AFAIK they have not. As Linus always told: Things will come when they are done. Unlike Linus, the driver wont be open source, simply because of the high amount of trade secrets contained within. But on the other side you will get

RE: [Dri-devel] ATI driver for Fire 8700/8800

2001-11-21 Thread Alexander Stohr
[Personal reply with public CC.] Yeah, but would ATI release drivers for the 7500/7800/8500 or only to the 8500 series? I dont know these specific models, not my personal scope. But i would like them to be supported, so that anyone is happy. Any time frame? I'm going to order a machine

RE: [Dri-devel] ATI driver for Fire 8700/8800

2001-11-21 Thread Alexander Stohr
The FireGL card is basically the same as the 7500/7800 with some modification to enable it to perform much faster then the 7500/7800. As i wrote elsewhere, the 8xxx series is based all on similar chips. (similar means that the hardware feature subset is compareable.) Its the so calle Radeon

Re: [Dri-devel] Apple AGP support

2001-11-21 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Sat, 2001-11-10 at 20:58, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: Note that it doesn't work correctly with all chipsets yet (the Rage M3 loves to lockup) with XFree 4.1. I beleive the problem is specific to that chip and possibly not related to those AGP fixes as other r128 cards seem to work

Re: [Dri-devel] DRI segfaults after debian update

2001-11-21 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Mon, 2001-11-19 at 10:03, Daniel Polombo wrote: Michel Dänzer wrote: My first guess would have been a wrong version of the kernel module, but the one from the 2.4.14 kernel should work. Could there be a stray libGL, e.g. in /usr/local, that gets picked up? You can check with ldd. I

Re: [Dri-devel] Apple AGP support

2001-11-22 Thread benh
I suspect it's less stable for us than for the x86 folks though, or there would be more noise about it on the various lists. What's this agp_special_page about? The agp_special_page is a page of RAM reserved by some code I have in the kernel's MM init stuff which is as high as possible, that

Re: [Dri-devel] Apple AGP support

2001-11-22 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Thu, 2001-11-22 at 12:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, if we are supposed to flush the CPU write buffer, then yes. mb() doesn't do that? mb() is a lot more expensive, and I'm not completely sure how it behaves regarding main memory accessed by UniNorth via AGP. It works for SMP

Re: [Dri-devel] Apple AGP support

2001-11-22 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Thu, 2001-11-22 at 11:55, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suspect it's less stable for us than for the x86 folks though, or there would be more noise about it on the various lists. What's this agp_special_page about? The agp_special_page is a page of RAM reserved by some code I have in

Re: [Dri-devel] Mach64 Devlolpment

2001-11-22 Thread Carl Busjahn
Robert Risack wrote: Hi folks Since I own a ATI Mach64 graphic card, I would like to help developing the DRI driver. I am computer scientist, but do not have any experience of driver writing on Linux or X. Greetings ___ Dri-devel mailing

Re: [Dri-devel] Apple AGP support

2001-11-22 Thread benh
Did you use it from the start in your AGP implementation? I didn't notice any difference between a couple weeks back and lately. It was there since I had working AGP. The only difference between what I had in my tree previously and what I submited here are some cleanups to remove warnings and

Re: [Dri-devel] mesa-4-0-branch: Not in good shape?

2001-11-22 Thread Keith Whitwell
Dieter Nützel wrote: Am Mittwoch, 7. November 2001 07:07 schrieb Keith Whitwell: Dieter Nützel wrote: Yes, I know it _is_ wok in progress, but I am trying to test it. The former mesa-3-5-branch has some bugs in conjunction with the tdfx driver and was slower as the trunk. I think it

[Dri-devel] laptops

2001-11-23 Thread samuel
hey, Can anyone recommend a laptop which'll run hw accelerated gfx under dri? (my wallet isnt huge :( ) thx samuel ___ Dri-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel

[Dri-devel] Re: [Xpert]Re: Radeon 2D accel very slow when DRI is enabled.

2001-11-21 Thread Keith Packard
Around 10 o'clock on Nov 21, Michel D nzer wrote: In 1600x1200x24 It takes 1 full second to draw the screen, or a good 3/4 of a second. That is definitely not accelerated. Again, disabling DRI, the MMIO accel makes everything fly. Color expansion is probably what's missing. Color

[Dri-devel] Re: [Xpert]Re: Radeon 2D accel very slow when DRI is enabled.

2001-11-21 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Wed, 2001-11-21 at 18:05, Keith Packard wrote: Around 10 o'clock on Nov 21, Michel D nzer wrote: In 1600x1200x24 It takes 1 full second to draw the screen, or a good 3/4 of a second. That is definitely not accelerated. Again, disabling DRI, the MMIO accel makes everything

[Dri-devel] Standalone Mesa vs. XFree86 bundled Mesa

2001-10-26 Thread Dag B
Hi. I am sure these questions are answered in a FAQ, but I couldn't find this info on the mesa website nor in the xfree86 docs. (May have overlooked something.) 1. XFree86 4.1.0 contains (pieces of) Mesa 3.4.2. The most noticeable exception being glut, I guess. Are there other major parts of

Re: [Dri-devel] Standalone Mesa vs. XFree86 bundled Mesa

2001-10-26 Thread Brian Paul
Dag B wrote: Hi. I am sure these questions are answered in a FAQ, but I couldn't find this info on the mesa website nor in the xfree86 docs. (May have overlooked something.) 1. XFree86 4.1.0 contains (pieces of) Mesa 3.4.2. The most noticeable exception being glut, I guess. Are

[Dri-devel] Radeon 2D accel very slow when DRI is enabled.

2001-11-19 Thread Mike A. Harris
I've noticed a general slowdown of XAA on Radeon when DRI is enabled. This is in our XFree86-4.1.0-3 package that shipped with Red Hat Linux 7.2. If DRI is disabled by commenting out the dri and GLcore module load lines in XF86Config-4, then 2D acceleration flies. Re-enabling DRI however

[Dri-devel] Re: [Xpert]Radeon 2D accel very slow when DRI is enabled.

2001-11-20 Thread Owen Taylor
It's a little suprising to me that removing some (fairly unimportant) accelerations makes 2D painfully slow; except for a few things like blits and solid area fills, acceleration just doesn't matter much any more. What applications were you testing with? I've seen DRI slow 2D down to a crawl,

[Dri-devel] Re: [Xpert]Radeon 2D accel very slow when DRI is enabled.

2001-11-20 Thread Mike A. Harris
On 20 Nov 2001, Owen Taylor wrote: Date: 20 Nov 2001 09:39:40 -0500 From: Owen Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mike A. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: DRI devel list [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], Hui Yu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re:

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: [Xpert]Radeon 2D accel very slow when DRI is enabled.

2001-11-20 Thread Eric Anholt
I've had a couple of FreeBSD DRI and Radeon users complain about this too. I had always chalked it up to some bug in our drivers and I was waiting to get a Radeon myself to check it out. On Tuesday 20 November 2001 16:29, Mike A. Harris wrote: On 20 Nov 2001, Owen Taylor wrote: Date: 20

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: Radeon 2D accel very slow when DRI is enabled.

2001-11-20 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Eric Anholt wrote: I've had a couple of FreeBSD DRI and Radeon users complain about this too. I had always chalked it up to some bug in our drivers and I was waiting to get a Radeon myself to check it out. Well, I've now confirmed that we are not on crack. ;o) People

[Dri-devel] Re: [Xpert]Radeon 2D accel very slow when DRI is enabled.

2001-11-21 Thread Dr Andrew C Aitchison
On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Mike A. Harris wrote: konsole, mozilla, any other application that is maximized. You name it. I can watch it draw the whole screen and count out loud. In 1600x1200x24 It takes 1 full second to draw the screen, or a good 3/4 of a second. That is definitely not

[Dri-devel] Re: Radeon 2D accel very slow when DRI is enabled.

2001-11-21 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Wed, 2001-11-21 at 01:29, Mike A. Harris wrote: On 20 Nov 2001, Owen Taylor wrote: It's a little suprising to me that removing some (fairly unimportant) accelerations makes 2D painfully slow; except for a few things like blits and solid area fills, acceleration just doesn't matter much

Re: Re: [Dri-devel] Re: Radeon 2D accel very slow when DRI is enabled.

2001-11-21 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Ani Joshi wrote: Well, I've now confirmed that we are not on crack. ;o) People who claim they're using Radeon with DRI enabled and not having any 2D slowdowns, are indeed on crack though, as the source code itself, as well as developers have now confirmed to me that

Re: [Dri-devel] Radeon 8500, what's the plan?

2001-09-27 Thread Dacobi Coding
On Thursday 27 September 2001 19:55, you wrote: Dacobi Coding wrote: Hello people! ... Not to say that ATI won't switch to a binary-only driver as well, but anyway... But are they planing to, or have they allready releaced the specs for the new Radeon chips? And I mean full specs complete

Re: [Dri-devel] Radeon 8500, what's the plan?

2001-09-27 Thread Gareth Hughes
Dacobi Coding wrote: But are they planing to, or have they allready releaced the specs for the new Radeon chips? And I mean full specs complete with V/P Shaders and TL? Did they ever release specs for the original Radeon? No. One would guess the same policy will apply in this case as

Re: [Dri-devel] Radeon 8500, what's the plan?

2001-09-27 Thread David Johnson
From: Gareth Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Dri-devel] Radeon 8500, what's the plan? Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 12:05:13 -0700 Dacobi Coding wrote: But are they planing to, or have they allready releaced the specs for the new

Re: [Dri-devel] DRI CVS compile problems finding X libs

2001-09-27 Thread Michel Dänzer
Simon Fowler wrote: About a month or two ago the DRI cvs tree was pruned a lot, so that it only really has the code needed for building the xserver and a few libs that need modifications from the base XFree86 4.x install - this is what's causing the problem. Actually, I think the problem is

Re: [Dri-devel] Radeon 8500, what's the plan?

2001-09-27 Thread Dacobi Coding
On Thursday 27 September 2001 21:05, you wrote: Dacobi Coding wrote: But are they planing to, or have they allready releaced the specs for the new Radeon chips? And I mean full specs complete with V/P Shaders and TL? Did they ever release specs for the original Radeon? No. One would

RE: [Dri-devel] Radeon 8500, what's the plan?

2001-09-27 Thread Daniel Vogel
They did release specs (under NDA) to many people (including yourself through PI/VA Linux). Keep in mind that ATI was paying VA Linux to develop Radeon Linux drivers at the time. - Daniel Vogel, Programmer, Epic Games Inc. ___ Dri-devel mailing

Re: [Dri-devel] Radeon 8500, what's the plan?

2001-09-27 Thread David Johnson
From: Gareth Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Dri-devel] Radeon 8500, what's the plan? Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 12:56:53 -0700 David Johnson wrote: They did release specs (under NDA) to many people (including yourself through

Re: [Dri-devel] Radeon 8500, what's the plan?

2001-09-27 Thread Dacobi Coding
On Thursday 27 September 2001 21:56, you wrote: David Johnson wrote: They did release specs (under NDA) to many people (including yourself through PI/VA Linux). Sure, but not to people in the general open source community, and with the demise of PI/VA, I would say the chances of a driver

Re: [Dri-devel] Radeon 8500, what's the plan?

2001-09-27 Thread Peter Surda
On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 08:19:46PM +, David Johnson wrote: Sure, that is a valid point but we need to remember that in the past ATI has not been adverse to supporting open source drivers or to releasing specs to qualified people. They are very friendly actually. They provided me

Re: [Dri-devel] Radeon 8500, what's the plan?

2001-09-27 Thread Jeffrey W. Baker
On Thu, 27 Sep 2001, Peter Surda wrote: On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 08:19:46PM +, David Johnson wrote: Sure, that is a valid point but we need to remember that in the past ATI has not been adverse to supporting open source drivers or to releasing specs to qualified people.

[Dri-devel] Re: Radeon 8500, what's the plan?

2001-09-28 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Thu, 27 Sep 2001, Dacobi Coding wrote: Dacobi Coding wrote: Hello people! ... Not to say that ATI won't switch to a binary-only driver as well, but anyway... But are they planing to, or have they allready releaced the specs for the new Radeon chips? And I mean full specs complete with

[Dri-devel] compiling the CVS tree

2001-09-28 Thread Janne Pänkälä
Ever since the CVS clean up it's been annoying to build the tree. I have so far used #define ProjectRoot /opt/X4 (in config/cf/site.def) and this leads to annoyances with libraries and stuff. X libraries incs are installed in /usr/X11R6/{lib,include}/ but build process nolonger seems to care

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: Radeon 8500, what's the plan?

2001-09-28 Thread Peter Surda
On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 11:21:37PM -0700, David Bronaugh wrote: If you look at it from a purely monentary point of view, yes, you are most likely correct. Not only from monetary point of view. However, one has to remember that a LOT of people that run Linux are computer people that users

RE: [Dri-devel] Re: Radeon 8500, what's the plan?

2001-09-28 Thread Alexander Stohr
From: Carl Busjahn I have to disagree. If people are really concered about performance they should be using Linux anyway. What David said is also true. I'm not going to reccomend a company that doesn't support Linux. We also know that Online games require good bandwidth, and the

[Dri-devel] gears problem

2001-09-29 Thread Steven P. Lilly
I just installed Slackware 8 with XFree86 4.1.0 and I've come across some weirdness with glxgears. When I'm running a window manager everything is fine but when I don't run a window manager I get a much higher frame rate but what I see is some garbage with a piece of a large red gear. Is this a

Re: [Dri-devel] Radeon 7500

2001-11-25 Thread Damien Miller
On 25 Nov 2001, Michel Dänzer wrote: On Wed, 2001-11-21 at 15:29, Diarmuid Drew wrote: I've just got a new Radeon 7500. I've tried to get it working under XFree86 4.1. I get a problem (EE) No devices detected. I assume this is because the 7500 is not supported as yet. I've downloaded

Re: [Dri-devel] mesa-4-0-branch: Not in good shape?

2001-11-26 Thread Dieter Nützel
Am Donnerstag, 22. November 2001 17:20 schrieb Keith Whitwell: Dieter Nützel wrote: Am Mittwoch, 7. November 2001 07:07 schrieb Keith Whitwell: Dieter Nützel wrote: Yes, I know it _is_ wok in progress, but I am trying to test it. The former mesa-3-5-branch has some bugs in

[Dri-devel] Re: [Dri-patches] CVS Update: xc (branch: trunk)

2001-11-26 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Mon, 2001-11-26 at 14:28, Keith Whitwell wrote: Log message: Put drm version back from 3.0 to 2.2; XFree86 4.1 is the baseline for versioning information. Modified files: xc/xc/lib/GL/mesa/src/drv/r128/: r128_xmesa.c

Re: [Dri-devel] Radeon 7500

2001-11-26 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Sun, 2001-11-25 at 23:28, Damien Miller wrote: On 25 Nov 2001, Michel Dänzer wrote: On Wed, 2001-11-21 at 15:29, Diarmuid Drew wrote: I've just got a new Radeon 7500. I've tried to get it working under XFree86 4.1. I get a problem (EE) No devices detected. I assume this is

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: [Dri-patches] CVS Update: xc (branch: trunk)

2001-11-26 Thread David Dawes
On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 02:51:18PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: On Mon, 2001-11-26 at 14:28, Keith Whitwell wrote: Log message: Put drm version back from 3.0 to 2.2; XFree86 4.1 is the baseline for versioning information. Modified files: xc/xc/lib/GL/mesa/src/drv/r128/:

[Dri-devel] Re: [Dri-patches] CVS Update: xc (branch: trunk)

2001-11-26 Thread Keith Whitwell
Michel Dänzer wrote: On Mon, 2001-11-26 at 14:28, Keith Whitwell wrote: Log message: Put drm version back from 3.0 to 2.2; XFree86 4.1 is the baseline for versioning information. Modified files: xc/xc/lib/GL/mesa/src/drv/r128/: r128_xmesa.c

[Dri-devel] Re: CVS Update: xc (branch: trunk)

2001-11-26 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Mon, 2001-11-26 at 15:59, Keith Whitwell wrote: Michel Dänzer wrote: On Mon, 2001-11-26 at 14:28, Keith Whitwell wrote: Log message: Put drm version back from 3.0 to 2.2; XFree86 4.1 is the baseline for versioning information. Modified files:

[Dri-devel] Re: [Xpert]3D on ATI Mobility Radeon-M

2001-09-21 Thread Michel Dänzer
Peter Surda wrote: On Fri, Sep 21, 2001 at 05:08:29PM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: Yes, PCI GART is still disabled in source for the Radeon AFAIK. Hmm I thought pci gart isn't implemented yet for radeon? The code has been there for as long as for the Rage128, it's just still disabled on

[Dri-devel] (no subject)

2001-11-28 Thread John Smith
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Re: [Dri-devel] X didn't build pex5 or xie?

2001-11-29 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Thu, 2001-11-29 at 06:34, Nicholas Leippe wrote: This isn't really DRI specific, but I don't know where else to ask. I just built + installed X from cvs, and it didn't build the pex5 or xie libs. I'm not even really sure what these do, but my other machine that I built a while back

Re: [Dri-devel] mesa-4-0-branch: only one compilation error left

2001-11-29 Thread Dieter Nützel
Am Donnerstag, 29. November 2001 09:42 schrieb Alan Hourihane: That's because you need to use the mesa_4_0_branch check out from mesa3d too, and not the trunk code. You call the Mesa CVS (4.1) which I use, the trunk? So I have to checkout the Mesa 4.0/4.0.1 branch? Thanks, Dieter

Re: [Dri-devel] mesa-4-0-branch: only one compilation error left

2001-11-29 Thread Alan Hourihane
On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 04:31:30PM +0100, Dieter Nützel wrote: Am Donnerstag, 29. November 2001 09:42 schrieb Alan Hourihane: That's because you need to use the mesa_4_0_branch check out from mesa3d too, and not the trunk code. You call the Mesa CVS (4.1) which I use, the trunk? So I

Re: [Dri-devel] Minor remaining problem with DRI on iBook with Mobility M3

2001-11-29 Thread Derrik Pates
Michel Dänzer wrote: agpgart is really stable for you? Most things like glxgears work fine on my Pismo with it, but a few other things like tuxracer reliably lock up. Haven't tried anything like TuxRacer yet. Don't know what kind of effect that will have on it. Never seen that. Or heard

Re: [Dri-devel] mesa-4-0-branch: only one compilation error left

2001-11-29 Thread Dieter Nützel
Am Donnerstag, 29. November 2001 16:40 schrieb Alan Hourihane: On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 04:31:30PM +0100, Dieter Nützel wrote: Am Donnerstag, 29. November 2001 09:42 schrieb Alan Hourihane: That's because you need to use the mesa_4_0_branch check out from mesa3d too, and not the trunk

Re: [Dri-devel] mesa-4-0-branch: only one compilation error left

2001-11-29 Thread Dieter Nützel
Oh, I've forgotten to send you a little screenshot. It shows some texture/clipping errors, too. Yours, Dieter Am Donnerstag, 29. November 2001 23:23 schrieb Dieter Nützel: Am Donnerstag, 29. November 2001 16:40 schrieb Alan Hourihane: On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 04:31:30PM +0100, Dieter

Re: [Dri-devel] Minor remaining problem with DRI on iBookwith Mobility M3

2001-11-29 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Thu, 2001-11-29 at 21:00, Derrik Pates wrote: Michel Dänzer wrote: That's too low indeed. I get ~350 without agpgart and almost 500 with it. (Or is your CPU slower than 300 MHz?) It's a 366 MHz G3 processor. So you should be able to achieve higher numbers. I'd expect somewhere

Re: [Dri-devel] oops with r128 on Dell Inspiron 4000

2001-10-05 Thread Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker
On Sat, Oct 06, 2001 at 02:46:44AM +0200, Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker wrote: Hi, I have a Dell Inspiron 4000 with an ATI Rage Mobility M3 on which DRI doesn't work. The r128 module loads fine, when I try to read from /proc/dri/0/vm, cat segfaults and I get this oops: With 2.4.10-ac7 it no

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: linux drivers for mach64

2001-10-06 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Fri, 2001-10-05 at 18:09, Frank Earl wrote: On Friday 05 October 2001 10:46, you wrote: i noticed your name on dri.sourceforge.net and was wondering if mach64 support was still being worked on or if the developers aren't going to continue with the project. there are many questions

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: Re: Radeon 8500, what's the plan?

2001-10-06 Thread ProjectPlasma admin
Nathan Hand wrote: My alternative is of course to have a dedicated DOS-only box, just for games. I know perps who play the old Sierra adventures this way. So if people are willing to do this for DOS surely they're willing to have a Linux 2.2 system just for running Linux games? Not likely!

Re: [Dri-devel] glDrawPixels on i810

2001-10-07 Thread Michael Zayats
- Original Message - From: Michel Dänzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Nathan Hand [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Michael Zayats [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 2:14 AM Subject: Re: [Dri-devel] glDrawPixels on i810 On Fri, 2001-10-05 at 00:08, Nathan Hand wrote:

Re: [Dri-devel] oops with r128 on Dell Inspiron 4000

2001-10-07 Thread Carl Busjahn
Hey, It's more than likely that your problem is in the 2.4.3 kernel, it had several issues with agp, and didn't work at all on Cyrix processors. 2.4.10 is a excellent release, and you'd do well to get it. Carl Busjahn Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker wrote: Hi, I have a Dell Inspiron 4000 with an

Re: [Dri-devel] glDrawPixels on i810

2001-10-07 Thread Michael Zayats
- Original Message - From: Michel Dänzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Nathan Hand [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Michael Zayats [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 2:14 AM Subject: Re: [Dri-devel] glDrawPixels on i810 On Fri, 2001-10-05 at 00:08, Nathan Hand wrote:

Re: [Dri-devel] glDrawPixels on i810

2001-10-07 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Sun, 2001-10-07 at 17:43, Michael Zayats wrote: On Fri, 2001-10-05 at 00:08, Nathan Hand wrote: XV is completely independent of V4L and the DRI. This is true conceptually and was true implementation-wise until recently. However, the r128 driver uses the DRM to transfer the XvImage

Re: [Dri-devel] oops with r128 on Dell Inspiron 4000

2001-10-07 Thread Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker
On Sun, Oct 07, 2001 at 08:15:38AM -0400, Carl Busjahn wrote: Hey, It's more than likely that your problem is in the 2.4.3 kernel, it had several issues with agp, and didn't work at all on Cyrix processors. 2.4.10 is a excellent release, and you'd do well to get it. I'm not running 2.4.3.

Re: [Dri-devel] oops with r128 on Dell Inspiron 4000

2001-10-07 Thread Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker
On Mon, Oct 08, 2001 at 01:56:28AM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: On Sun, 2001-10-07 at 23:44, Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker wrote: I am very keen on getting DRI up and running on this machine, and I will assist with any tests and/or troubleshooting you find necessary, just give me the

Re: [Dri-devel] oops with r128 on Dell Inspiron 4000

2001-10-08 Thread Carl Busjahn
Yes, You must be running this thing at about 1600x1200... Your highest mode for 16 bit is 1024x768. You really wouldn't get any preformance at a higher resolution anyway. And highest for 24(32)bit is 800x600, but use 16bit. Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker wrote: On Mon, Oct 08, 2001 at 01:56:28AM

FW: [Dri-devel] bitmap transfers (was: Radeon 8500, what's the plan?)

2001-10-08 Thread Alexander Stohr
From: Peter Surda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Hmm isn't this dri-devel? Shouldn't we be talking about stuff like how to do DMA efficiently and what new functions to add instead? Brings me back to what I wrote a couple of weeks ago, there is no function in DRI that is able to transfer

RE: [Dri-devel] Re: [Xpert]twm, 3D and Radeon

2001-10-08 Thread Alexander Stohr
From: Michel Dänzer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Fri, 2001-10-05 at 17:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Before I try delving deeper into this, maybe someone can tell me what is going on. * Radeon: 1002:5144 * 2d is working fine * software GL is working fine *

[Dri-devel] Using drm

2001-10-08 Thread volodya
After reading documentation (and confirming that I already know all the acronyms) and sifting thru driver code I decided to ask on the list, while the people who wrote this stuff can still answer ;) Basically I want to DMA a chunk of video ram into plain RAM. This is useful for: video

RE: [Dri-devel] Using drm

2001-10-08 Thread Sottek, Matthew J
Vladimir, The drm _does_ allow the client to mmap the video ram. Of course there are security reasons to limit this behavior. The X server handles the memory management and then sets up drm maps which are areas of video memory that can be mapped by a drm client. Take a look at the

Re: [Dri-devel] Using drm

2001-10-08 Thread R C
On Mon, Oct 08, 2001 at 03:54:14PM -0700, Sottek, Matthew J wrote: Basically I want to DMA a chunk of video ram into plain RAM. This is useful for: video capture, VBI/closed captioning, taking screen snapshots. I think you are going about this the wrong way. Video capture does not need

RE: [Dri-devel] Using drm

2001-10-08 Thread volodya
On Mon, 8 Oct 2001, Sottek, Matthew J wrote: Vladimir, The drm _does_ allow the client to mmap the video ram. Of course I don't want video ram. I want to transfer data from video ram into plain memory and then access it there - pci reads are way slow. there are security reasons to limit

RE: [Dri-devel] Using drm

2001-10-08 Thread Sottek, Matthew J
Vladimir, As Peter pointed out to me you were speaking of a video card with built-in capture. This _does_ require, as you stated a way to get the video, out of the video ram and into system ram, my apologies for the misunderstanding. My point should still hold. The DRM should allow you to

Re: [Dri-devel] Using drm

2001-10-08 Thread volodya
On Tue, 9 Oct 2001, Peter Surda wrote: On Mon, Oct 08, 2001 at 03:54:14PM -0700, Sottek, Matthew J wrote: The drm _does_ allow the client to mmap the video ram. I am not completely sure about this, but as I'm also working on the same thing as Vladimir, capturing for ATI AIWs, I think he

Re: [Dri-devel] Using drm

2001-10-08 Thread Peter Surda
On Mon, Oct 08, 2001 at 06:14:13PM -0700, Sottek, Matthew J wrote: my apologies for the misunderstanding. np, the point is we all learned something new :-) My point should still hold. The DRM should allow you to map an video area into a client accessible memory location. You don't need DRM

Re: [Dri-devel] Using drm

2001-10-08 Thread Peter Surda
On Mon, Oct 08, 2001 at 06:31:24PM -0700, Gareth Hughes wrote: I think it'll be hard to set up and initiate DMA transfers without proper hardware documentation. Do you have Radeon specs? Yes, all the developers working on this (volodya, RC and I) have docs from ATI under NDA (well I don't

Re: [Dri-devel] Using drm

2001-10-09 Thread volodya
On Mon, 8 Oct 2001, Gareth Hughes wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After reading documentation (and confirming that I already know all the acronyms) and sifting thru driver code I decided to ask on the list, while the people who wrote this stuff can still answer ;) Basically I

RE: [Dri-devel] Using drm

2001-10-09 Thread volodya
On Mon, 8 Oct 2001, Sottek, Matthew J wrote: Vladimir, As Peter pointed out to me you were speaking of a video card with built-in capture. This _does_ require, as you stated a way to get the video, out of the video ram and into system ram, my apologies for the misunderstanding.

[Dri-devel] Radeon VE?

2001-10-10 Thread Carl Busjahn
Hey, has anyone had experience with Radeon VE for dri? I'm not interested in the extra heads particularly... VE 64mb starts at $57 on pricewatch, or with tv out for $65. It's faster than a Geforce2 MX400, and the linux drivers are open source... if they work. If anyone has expereinced the

[Dri-devel] Radeon VE? (Carl Busjahn)

2001-10-10 Thread Bobakitoo
Hey, has anyone had experience with Radeon VE for dri? I'm not interested in the extra heads particularly... VE 64mb starts at $57 on pricewatch, or with tv out for $65. It's faster than a Geforce2 MX400, and the linux drivers are open source... if they work. If anyone has expereinced

Re: [Dri-devel] Radeon VE? (Carl Busjahn)

2001-10-10 Thread Tim Keating
On Wed, 10 Oct 2001, Bobakitoo wrote: Radeon VE is verry diapointing. It propably the driver code and it may be get improved. A quick look at any of the reviews for the Radeon VE will point out that there is a very significant difference between the VE and other Radeons. The VE is intended

Re: [Dri-devel] Using drm (fwd)

2001-10-10 Thread volodya
So, can anyone answer any of the questions below, or do I have to write drm for multimedia ? thanks Vladimir Dergachev interface of doing captures. I'm currently working on a new Xv function (XvShmGetImage) that will do this, and

Re: [Dri-devel] Using drm (fwd)

2001-10-10 Thread Daryll Strauss
On Wed, Oct 10, 2001 at 05:13:40PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, can anyone answer any of the questions below, or do I have to write drm for multimedia ? The DRM is an architecture for accessing hardware directly. What functions are implemented in any given kernel module is driven by

Re: [Dri-devel] Radeon VE? (Carl Busjahn)

2001-10-10 Thread Carl Busjahn
Thanks for the information, it was very helpfull., I'm sorry If I offended anyone by saying radeon is faster than Gf2 mx400, though it is :-) You might want to research your hardware before you say something like a radeon doesn't have TL... Carl Busjahn Tim Keating wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct

Re: [Dri-devel] Using drm (fwd)

2001-10-10 Thread volodya
On Wed, 10 Oct 2001, Daryll Strauss wrote: On Wed, Oct 10, 2001 at 05:13:40PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, can anyone answer any of the questions below, or do I have to write drm for multimedia ? The DRM is an architecture for accessing hardware directly. What functions are

Re: [Dri-devel] tdfx, HP_occlusion_test

2001-10-10 Thread Keith Whitwell
On Thu, 11 Oct 2001 19:15, Fray Bentos wrote: Hi I submitted a bug report a few days ago concerning the HP_OCCLUSION_TEST extention to opengl on the tdfx driver. Im hopefully gonna fix it myself, but i was wondering if any one can verify that the extension works perfectly on any other (other

Re: [Dri-devel] tdfx, HP_occlusion_test

2001-10-10 Thread Daryll Strauss
On Fri, Oct 12, 2001 at 02:15:42AM +0100, Fray Bentos wrote: Hi I submitted a bug report a few days ago concerning the HP_OCCLUSION_TEST extention to opengl on the tdfx driver. Im hopefully gonna fix it myself, but i was wondering if any one can verify that the extension works perfectly on

Re: [Dri-devel] Using drm (fwd)

2001-10-10 Thread Keith Whitwell
Finally, someone who knows the stuff :)) No, there is no such variable, but this phrase I plucked from the comment. Here is an example from radeon.h: /* CP vertex/indirect buffer data */ unsigned long bufStart;/* Offset into AGP space */

Re: [Dri-devel] tdfx, HP_occlusion_test

2001-10-10 Thread volodya
On Fri, 12 Oct 2001, Fray Bentos wrote: Hi I submitted a bug report a few days ago concerning the HP_OCCLUSION_TEST extention to opengl on the tdfx driver. Im hopefully gonna fix it myself, but i was wondering if any one can verify that the extension works perfectly on any other (other

Re: [Dri-devel] tdfx, HP_occlusion_test

2001-10-10 Thread Matthew Clarke
vendredi, le 12 octobre, 2001, Fray Bentos nous a dit ceci: Hi I submitted a bug report a few days ago concerning the HP_OCCLUSION_TEST extention to opengl on the tdfx driver. Im hopefully gonna fix it myself, but i was wondering if any one can verify that the extension works perfectly on

Re: [Dri-devel] Using drm (fwd)

2001-10-10 Thread volodya
On Wed, 10 Oct 2001, Keith Whitwell wrote: Finally, someone who knows the stuff :)) No, there is no such variable, but this phrase I plucked from the comment. Here is an example from radeon.h: /* CP vertex/indirect buffer data */ unsigned long

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[Dri-devel] Slightly Off-Topic: BT878 tuner == Radeon capture. Possible???

2001-10-11 Thread dan
Hi all. Firstly, I know this isn't exactly the right place for this question, but I've already tried on the video4linux list and the kernel developers list, and got NO response at all :( ie I am desperate... I have a 64MB ViVo Radeon - without the tuner. I also have a BT878-based tuner /

Re: [Dri-devel] tdfx, HP_occlusion_test

2001-10-11 Thread Allen Barnett
Fray Bentos wrote: Im hopefully gonna fix it myself, but i was wondering if any one can verify that the extension works perfectly on any other (other than the v5500) voodoo card. Seems to work OK on a Voodoo 3500TV. The results are as others have described. Turning off the video refresh sync

Re: [Dri-devel] Slightly Off-Topic: BT878 tuner == Radeon capture.Possible???

2001-10-11 Thread volodya
On Thu, 11 Oct 2001, dan wrote: Hi all. Firstly, I know this isn't exactly the right place for this question, but I've already tried on the video4linux list and the kernel developers list, and got NO response at all :( ie I am desperate... I have a 64MB ViVo Radeon - without the

[Dri-devel] XFreeDRI CVS

2001-10-11 Thread Otto E Solares
Hi, can anyone point me if the DRI cvs tree is broken right now? i am trying to compile the xc tree and the only lib it compiles correctly (after a bit of modification to makefile) is libGL. Any other libraries and binaries doesn't compile, is the compilation guide in dri.sourceforge.net

Re: [Dri-devel] Slightly Off-Topic: BT878 tuner == Radeon capture.Possible???

2001-10-11 Thread Derrik Pates
On Thu, 11 Oct 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to get the signal from the BT878 tuner into the Radeon for hardware mpeg conversion? Maybe a video4linux-loopback-type-thing. What do you mean by hardware mpeg conversion ? Many All-in-Wonder (and I think some of the VIVO cards)

Re: [Dri-devel] Slightly Off-Topic: BT878 tuner == Radeon capture.Possible???

2001-10-11 Thread volodya
On Thu, 11 Oct 2001, Derrik Pates wrote: On Thu, 11 Oct 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to get the signal from the BT878 tuner into the Radeon for hardware mpeg conversion? Maybe a video4linux-loopback-type-thing. What do you mean by hardware mpeg conversion ? Many

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