RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Dstar Repeater receive is bad . .

2010-05-01 Thread Greg Forrest
It is not the loss, it's the isolation we are all after. Some typical RG58 cables have less than 80 dB, while the solid shield cables can exceed 120 dB. Even with the 80 dB stuff, that's 160 dB total (cable-to-cable) so it should be fine, unless the transmitter has a problem. I measured two

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Dstar Repeater receive is bad . .

2010-05-01 Thread john_ke5c
It is not the loss, it's the isolation we are all after. Some typical RG58 cables have less than 80 dB, while the solid shield cables can exceed 120 dB. Even with the 80 dB stuff, that's 160 dB total (cable-to-cable) so it should be fine, unless the transmitter has a problem. These short

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Dstar Repeater receive is bad . .

2010-04-30 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
Of john_ke5c Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 12:09 AM To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Dstar Repeater receive is bad . . A few months ago, the same digital repeater was setup in Mt. Lukens in Los Angeles and in the same setup where an analog repeater used to be. Right

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Dstar Repeater receive is bad . .

2010-04-30 Thread Steve Bosshard (NU5D)
Very simple test: A very quick and easy test for desense. 2 people and a GOOD dummy load needed. (type NM connection that will attach directly to the bulkhead fitting on the back of the repeater). Have one person with dummy load in hand at the repeater with a talkie. The second in the field

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Dstar Repeater receive is bad . .

2010-04-30 Thread Woodrick, Ed
AM To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Dstar Repeater receive is bad . . A few months ago, the same digital repeater was setup in Mt. Lukens in Los Angeles and in the same setup where an analog repeater used to be. Right away we noticed the difference in receive

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Dstar Repeater receive is bad . .

2010-04-29 Thread ErnestK
Does it receive better in low power than it does in full power? If so, the problem is desense. What is your antenna/duplexer situation? Ernie W6KAP --- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, Lot k6...@... wrote: Hi Everyone, Our club bought a Dstar Repeater (IDRP4000v IDRP2C). For some

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Dstar Repeater receive is bad . .

2010-04-29 Thread michaelcarey69
Hi Lot, The issue with the Icom UHF repeater hardware is that the receiver has poor selectivity (immunity to off frequency and out of band transmissions) and poor sensitivity. You need a lot of RF separation between the transmitter and receiver ports... 100dB or better is what you need. You

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Dstar Repeater receive is bad . .

2010-04-29 Thread john_ke5c
A few months ago, the same digital repeater was setup in Mt. Lukens in Los Angeles and in the same setup where an analog repeater used to be. Right away we noticed the difference in receive sensitivity. We made some test at a low level location and that is where we realized that even in