The bug where apps are using an output role that the volume controls
usually don't show is bug 1478506.
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Per spec, if an app/game is playing sounds but not music, that is the
alert output role. As long as an alarm is not sounding, a phone call
is not in progress, and you're not playing music some other way, all
volume controls should adjust the volume of that app's sounds.
It's true that with the current UI you can't change the ringtone volume
while media is playing. But there's still no explanation here of why
that would actually be a problem
An additional piece of information which may weigh into this discussion
(I propose no solutions here) is that of apps and
(Additional: perhaps app event sounds should obey the ringer volume, not
the media volume? This is unlikely to be a good approach and carries
with it its own confusion; it becomes impossible to silence a game
without also silencing the ringer, which is not good.)
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Assignee: (unassigned) = Matthew Paul Thomas (mpt)
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Android and iOS combined have about 96% market share, and neither of
them work the way you describe. That doesn't necessarily mean either of
them have the ideal design. But it does mean you have to give a lot more
explanation before you use the word should so much.
It's true that with the current
There doesn't seem to be a problem described at all here, and the
proposal is perplexing.
Why should the indicator slider change only the ringtone volume? That
would mean if you were playing music, the indicator slider would not
change the volume of the music, which would be ... surprising. And
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Assignee: (unassigned) = Xavi Garcia (xavi-garcia-mena)
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Totally, as I wrote in the other bug
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1291458/comments/2
MeeGo had this solved really well.
Just one thing I'm not sure how it worked there - app volume. What
Michael's proposing is that we only really have 'ringtone' + 'other'
volumes (I'd add
I think there should be two sliders in the indicator. One for ringtone
volume, one for all multimedia sound.
** Also affects: canonical-devices-system-image
Importance: Undecided
Status: New
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Bug #1396986 is described in the opposite sense but is really the same
issue. As I posted there the design calls for the heading on the slider
to change based on mode. I believe in settings we should show the
current setting for all four independent modes - alarm, alert,
multimedia and phone,
+1 to that, something tells me your opinion is biased by Harmattan :D
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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1478075
Title:
Sound
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.
** Changed in: indicator-sound (Ubuntu)
Status: New = Confirmed
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Because when playing music, you can't change ringtone volume (and they
*are*, even today, different), they are two very separate things IMO.
As I described, the volume slider as we have it today, should not really
be a volume slider at all, but rather a profile-change-slider, including
silent,
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