JD, Well on some things we just agree to disagree. But it is certainly nothing person Jim you know I have high respect for you and enjoy your wit from time to time Here is how it goes in my mind. E-gold is bought and sold via the net through my computer. So if I go back to your website 6 months ago I should see your rates, accounts, policies and a general realistic view that "hello, I am an Exchange Provider" but when we go back 6 months and look at your web there is no mention anywhere of rates, how to process an order, policy and not even a general feel that the website www.ezez.com was an exchange provider at that time.
You may have been doing exchanges privately out of your garage for all I care going back 4 years but that web did not reflect it was an exchange provider until this year. Trust I'm not swayed by the public opinion of my peers. The fact is e-gold is sold via a web and your web did not reflect the fact that it was involved with exchanges until earlier this year. That is my reasoning. In fact I'm sure you have been involved with this business going back to probably to year one. But the web ezez does not reflect that and that was our decision based on 3 or 4 others pointing it out to us. If you have receipts going back years showing transactions, great what do you want me to do put down your phone number instead of the URL? I'm sorry you don't like it, but every other exchange provider 40+ at the time had all pasted the same test and procedure. (JD) However, I have e-gold account records of receiving gold and selling it in bulk beginning in January 2002. So, I would disagree with the "start date" if you are still listing 2003. JIM. This is the internet archive for your site ezez frome June 01, 2002 Now you show me anywhere on this web where it represents this web as an "exchange provider for e-gold" Jun 01, 2002 * http://web.archive.org/web/20020601141542/http://ezez.com/ Besides the e-gold symbol which just links to new accounts there is absolutely no mention that you were an exchange provider and these facts have also been pointed out by others. Every exchange provider went through the same test. Cambist.net May 11, 2001 http://web.archive.org/web/20010311143809/http://www.cambist.net/ Fastgold.net April, 2001 http://web.archive.org/web/20010203143500/http://fastgold.net/ TheBullionExchange Dec. 2001 http://web.archive.org/web/20011204043853/http://thebullionexchange.com/ Gold Today Oct. 2000 http://web.archive.org/web/20001019052629/http://www.gold-today.com/ Now you may have been selling e-gold somewhere out of an office or on the phone, I don't know but on that date in January 2002 you were not representing to the public that you were an exchange provider for e-gold from this web. That is not my bias oppinion, look at the web, that's a fact. This is our determination and if you don't agree with it I'm sorry, but I think it is 100% fair to everyone on the list. Now on to productive things: Others today have submitted similar suggestions on the PGP verification or digital sig items and its a project we can tackle if its useful. (JD) One interesting thought in this regard would be a web page which contains a form. A person would come to the page, paste in a digitally signed message. He would then select a merchant's web site from a drop down list. He clicks "submit" and the web server performs a PGP signature validation. If it comes up matching the particular merchant chosen, that is reported. If it matches any other PGP key on file, or on a remote key server, that is reported. If there is no way to validate the signature, that is reported. If the signature is in fact invalid, that is reported. So, someone knowing where to look for this service would not need to have PGP himself or know much more than how to work a web form. (Mark) This is the best so far fast and easy. Another member sent in an similar idea I have listed below ========================================= Anybody could put a link to their PGP key, on their website. If you want to provide a service for your members, you could integrate a PGP signature check service. Every member would include a link in every email they want to send; actually, there should be no link, but just plain text (that has to be manually pasted in the browser's address bar) because most of us know links in emails can point to other locations than the displayed one (so crackers can simulate the service). This link would be to a form on your site where anyone interested could simply paste the email they received, and your system would return to whom the signature in the email belongs. Here is an example of how the signed emails of your members could look like: <Email content> ----------------- If you would like to verify that we (company X) are the sender of this email, please copy (without the quotes) and paste the link between the following qoutes in the address bar of your Internet browser: "ww.checkingservice.com". Please make sure to add a "w" character before the link. At that location you will see a form in which you have to paste this entire email, then click the "Check" button. The checking service will then check the digital signature of the email and display to you who signed the email, namely us (company X). ---------------------------- With some more good ideas like these, I would imagine with some technical help, in a reasonable period of time we may be offering this as a free service to the industry unless someone else more established wants to already do it. We are happy to assist and eager to receive technical assistance. Thanks for your support. Mark --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.