Khurram, Jim has asked us to NOT make any more general discussion on this list, as e-gold does not want this to be a popular and well-used list. It's their list - let's respect whatever Jim asks for. I will briefly answer you and then have an IMPORTANT COMMERCE E.R.E. annoucement! I suggest you or anyone does not reply to me on the list, for poor Jim's blood pressure. >>>Essentially half the world "missed out" on the Enlightenment >>>Death to all tribailists -- save us the nuisance by slaughtering them now. >> > >Oh JP... I wonder if you said the same thing when the building in >Oklahoma city was bombed, I wonder if you said Death to all white >people? I wonder if you said the same thing the day a country >killed millions of civilians in one day, think hiroshima and >nagasaki. {Regarding the former, I loathe the BATF and wish they had all been burned to death at OK City. Regarding the latter, you are utterly off the mark. About 60 thousand were killed at Nagasaki, and 120 thousand at Hiroshima. Example http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/abomb/mp10.htm . THE DEATH TOLL AT THE WTC WAS ESTIMATED AT A POSSIBLE 30 THOUSAND LAST NIGHT. The weapon used at the WTC *was* a weapon of mass destruction (a WMD)...MORE POWERFUL than many small nukes. FAR MORE PEOPLE would have been killed than at Nagasaki, if the buildings had tumbled immediately. Regarding WW2, there were any number of devices and military events that killed tremendously more people than the nukes -- carpet bombing in Dresden utterly dwarfed Hiroshima/Nagasaki, as for that matter did Fire bombing of Tokyo. Regarding the Japanese in WW2, they were the bad guys, along with the Germans. Japan should have been bombed constantly until they surrendered, which they did; what was the alternative, kill millions on each side in a ground war? I am not a pacifist; entities that INITTIATE physical force against other entities should be decimated. If you are a pacifist, ie, you believe that when an entity INITIATES physical force against another, that entity should not be retaliated against, there's nothing we can discuss--it's a fundemental epistemological difference.} {On a lighter note, my usual comment to Pacifists is "I hope you get killed, then!" :-) } >I understand that there may be emotions and tempers flaring at this >time, but please think before you speak. > Regarding your question Khurram, I think you're not clear how I'm using the word "tribalist" .. I use it as Ayn Rand would. A "tribalist" is just an anti-capitalist, an anti-individualist, a statist. A sacrificer. I urge you to re-read my post, and I urge you to read everything in http://chaostan.com. By all means I am a big critic of the US Gov. That does not mean that the US Gov's air force is not a fabulous instrument to reign total destruction on the anti-capitalists who did this, and anyone near them. Sure, it would be better if some capitalists in the USA got together and paid hard cash, or gold, for nuclear weapons and did it themselves, but the USAF is fine by me. GO USAF. The WTC attacks were WMDs, the response should be WMDs. >People of Isreal consider themselves a tribe, and so do the omish >people, death to them also? > > Khurram Khan *end of Jim irritation!* Promotion: How that I'm all wound up again ... Bananagold, which now accepts both e-gold and GoldMoney, will be offering a fabulous PROMOTION to celebrate the amazing achievements of DGCs in a few short years, and the fact that capitalism is the winning side, and can never be defeated, and that even Sept 11 is not even a poke in the eye for Capitalism. Get ready for a Banana promotion! (GoldMoney is doing well at Banana, BTW .. it's, for now, running about 1/2 as many orders as e-gold .. remarkable considering the tiny base.) I encourage other services (eg, Metal Proxy etc) that they may want to consider accepting GoldMoney. It's still a marginal business overall, but there it is. JP May --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you know that you can spend e-gold to help the victims of terror at: http://www.freedomhound.com:80/servlet/echannel?Request=Render&ID=443149&Data=1292