Re: environment?

1996-09-17 Thread Charlotte Sullivan
WOW, Stephen... very insightful. Thanks for sharing your thoughts! 'Couldn't have said it better myself. -- - Charlotte Sullivan Executive Director Protect Animal Life "PEACE AND FREEDOM FOR ALL WHO LIVE" Stephen R. Figgins wrote: > > Hi Greg! > > Your posts in defense of the meat i

Re: women and the consumption of milk

1996-09-17 Thread Charlotte Sullivan
Very good points, Candi. Thanks for the enlightenment! -- - Charlotte Sullivan Executive Director Protect Animal Life "PEACE AND FREEDOM FOR ALL WHO LIVE" candi churchill wrote: > > i agree w/ Charlotte Sullivan in that the vegatarian issue has been > overdone. i do not mean to say i

Re: environment

1996-09-17 Thread Charlotte Sullivan
Wow, Patty... very well put! lokken wrote: > > At 12:43 PM 9/15/96 EST, you wrote: > > >By the way, I'm still waiting for a response to my question about how sexism > >connects with environmental degradation in the practiacal life of a > >middle-class, north american, white woman. > > > >Omar

Re: environment?

1996-09-17 Thread Charlotte Sullivan
G.GARRARD wrote: > > Dear Stephen, > The reason veggie issue keeps coming up is because there -appears- to > be neat homology between animal exploitation and sexism. The are > certainly area of -analogy-, but the identical character usually > claimed is an insult to feminism (I think) and a total

Re: environment

1996-09-17 Thread Liam Campion
omar: when you wrote, "It is not enough to acknowledge that you are a recipient of privelege. The point is to work against your privelege, your power. If you just accept your status, ..._ you continue your role as an active oppressor." would that include persons who have struggled to a

RE: environment

1996-09-17 Thread dcroker
It seems the difference here is between "privilege" and "power." I think what Omar is writing about is white privilege, a very real privilege that is NOT power but something unearned and predicated upon institutions of racism. Perhaps power can come from understanding that one experience

Radical Philosophy 79 now out

1996-09-17 Thread STEFANIE S. RIXECKER
[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Forwarded Message Follows --- R a d i c a l P h i l o s o p h y 79 (Sept/Oct 1996) a journal of socialist and feminist philosophy CONTENTS COMMENTARY PLAYERS: PUBLIC SERVICE BROADCASTING - POLITICS AND POLICY Mandy Merck2 ARTICLES PSYCHOANALYSIS AS ANTI

Re: veg. discussion

1996-09-17 Thread bdonalds
>Kimberly Hart wrote: > >[snip] > >> First point: I find it interesting that vegetarians who are concerned about >> animal welfare rarely discuss plant welfare. Just because a plant doesn't >> bleed and doesn't have a nervous system we cannot assume that it is beyond >> feeling. It is possible

October 25-27 Midwest SWIP Meeting/fwd-LONG!

1996-09-17 Thread STEFANIE S. RIXECKER
Here's the itinerary for the Midwest Women in Philosophy meeting. Apologies for length. [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Forwarded Message Follows --- Midwest Society for Women in Philosophy, Fall Conference, Oct. 25-27, 1996 Southern Illinois University at Edwardsville, Edwardsville, IL 6202

Feminist Activist list/fwd

1996-09-17 Thread STEFANIE S. RIXECKER
Hi ECOFEMers! Since some of you are involved and/or interested in activism, here's a new feminist list you might find worthwhile. I haven't signed on to view it, so I don't have any further details at this point. The message has been cross-posted from WMST-L and SWIP, so apologies for any d

Re: environment?

1996-09-17 Thread G.GARRARD
Dear Mr Figgis, You are frankly kidding yourself if you think you can simply dispense with 'value hierarchical thinking' in the way that you suggest. Moreover, your assumption that this would even be a good thing is open to question. Certainly it is true that man/woman and human/nature have, a

RE: non-vegetarianism and environmental interest

1996-09-17 Thread Eric Hepburn, ITC
>Stephen R. Figgins wrote: >>What stupid stupid arguements for eating meat. And what a stupid >>arguement against advocating a vegetarian diet for those who have the >>ability to choose. And it does not address at all the attitudes that >>lead us to such a horrible meat industry, massive environ

Re: VEGIES AND FEMS

1996-09-17 Thread Lisa Morisset
> I would like to suggest that there is an intrinsic link between feminist practices and those of real world farming practices and indeed plumbing; that all revolve around concepts of consumption and resource control as demanded by capitalism. That the absence of a spiritual wholeness required b