Re: [ECOLOG-L] "The Audacity of Graduate School" - "Reshuffling Graduate Training"

2012-10-19 Thread Dave Daversa
Hi ECOLOG, As an American currently living and executing a PhD program in Europe, I feel compelled to write expressing my agreement with Wayne Dawson's comments. While it is true that many PhD projects for students are prescribed supervisors, this is not the only way it works. I, for example, ha

Re: [ECOLOG-L] "The Audacity of Graduate School" - "Reshuffling Graduate Training"

2012-10-17 Thread Thiago S. F. Silva
Just some corrections about the Brazilian system, mentioned by Aaron. There is no salary component from research grants, but most grad students don't write their own grants either (postdocs do). The grad fellowships are pre-allocated by graduate program, based on the overall performance of said pr

Re: [ECOLOG-L] "The Audacity of Graduate School" - "Reshuffling Graduate Training"

2012-10-17 Thread Wayne Dawson
Hello ECOLOG, I'm not sure if a European perspective has been expressed yet, but I will do so anyway. I cannot comment on US PhD positions and the US grad school system, as I have no experience of them, but I do have experience of doing a PhD in Europe (in Britain), and of supervising/observing th

Re: [ECOLOG-L] "The Audacity of Graduate School" - "Reshuffling Graduate Training"

2012-10-17 Thread Jane Shevtsov
Again, your mileage may vary. When I wrote my first paper in grad school, I automatically put my advsor's name on it. He thanked me but said that he hadn't made enough of a contribution to earn that credit. Only after he made substantial (albeit sometimes exasperating to me) contributions to the wr