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[mailto:ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU] On Behalf Of David L. McNeely
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[mailto:ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU] On Behalf Of David L. McNeely
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 10:57 AM
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Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Question Ecology Natural History etc Re: [ECOLOG-L]
Hypothesis Testing i
It may be of interest to note that molecular genetics as it has been
conducted over the past number of decades is effectively a natural
history of the genome. These studies are largely - almost entirely -
descriptive with very little in the way of experimentation or hypothesis
testing. In mol
ls, I'm wondering
if any reconstruction of pre-contact climate and hydrology might have
been done or in the works . . . It would seem that a program that could
do this might be applicable anywhere.
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Maybe this was true in the 19th century, and there are still some
minor outlets where
observational notes with limited or no replication is accepted so you
can publish the
kind of observations you suggest, but modern and mainstream natural history
studies require huge sample sizes and extensive rep
I think the common interpretation of "natural history" among ecologists
could be called "descriptive ecology." It has the tacit hypotheses Matt
Chew listed, but I don't think people associate natural history with
explicit hypothesis-testing. It's about collecting and describing
observations that
d hydrology might have been done
> or in the works . . . It would seem that a program that could do this might
> be applicable anywhere.
>
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> To: ; "Wayne Tyson"
> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 10:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [EC
To reiterate what Dr. McNeely wrote, if you are uncertain about
Natural History's importance, I recommend the following paper by Bruce
Bury, its pretty darn good:
Bury, R.B. 2006. Natural history, field ecology, conservation biology,
and wildlife management: Time to connect the dots. Herpetologic
I think there might be a useful distinction between natural history and
ecology, namely, the degree to which observations are replicated. With the
phrase "natural history" there is no connotation or expectation that
observations can be strictly replicated (this does not mean patterns cannot
be fou
ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU] On Behalf Of Wayne Tyson
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 3:21 PM
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Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Question Ecology Natural History etc Re: [ECOLOG-L]
Hypothesis Testing in Ecology
Thanks, David. Now I don't have to toss all my Darwin stuff in
Rudhira, I would definitely include the studies you describe as "natural
history" and as ecology. I was somewhat tongue in cheek, and a little bit
serious in my earlier post. To me, bottom line, ecology is an attempt to
understand the nature (or history) of nature. In recent years we have re
Nothing in modern studies; however, many contend that natural history
is still done like back in the 19th century. If you look at those
ancient papers you will find all kinds of pure speculation and things
that simply could never be published today. Modern natural history,
or life history studies
It would seem that a program that could do this might be
applicable anywhere.
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To: ; "Wayne Tyson"
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Question Ecology Natural History etc Re: [ECOLOG-L]
Hypothesis Testing in Ecology
Wayne Tyson wrote:
> Ecolog:
>
> What specifically distinguishes natural history from ecology?
Wayne, Ernst Haeckel coined the term which became our modern term "ecology."
You probably knew this. Haeckel mistook the root of biological science,
natural history, for one of its branches,
Ecolog:
What specifically distinguishes natural history from ecology?
WT
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Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Hypothesis Testing in Ecology
Ecology without hypotheses has been dismissed (sometimes derided) as
na
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